Boy Seaman RN

Extension of term of service: The term of service for which a seaman shall hereafter enter may, as at present, be temporarily extended, in the event of any emergency, or necessity, which, in the opinion of the Lords of the Admiralty, or a Commander-in-Chief on a foreign station, may render such temporary extension requisite; and any man so detained beyond the term of his agreement, is to be entitled to 2d a day, in addition to the pay of the rating which he may hold. Period of service and leave: It is to be generally understood, that when the public service will admit, the customary period of service abroad will not be exceeded; and that six weeks leave of absence will usually be granted on the return of ships to England, and further leave during each year, whenever the service will permit.

When ships are put out of commission, or paid off, the continuous service men are to be entered as disposable supernumeraries on the books of the Flag Ship of the port: In hospital at home: Petty officers, seamen and boys, entered for continuous service, who may be sent to hospital or sick quarters at home, will not be checked as formerly for time and pay at the end of 30 days, petty officers and able seamen will be subject to the deduction of 10d per day from their pay, ordinary seamen and 2nd class ordinary seamen 8d a day and boys 4d a day, to be charged against them on the Ship's books; and men in hospital, when a ship sails for Foreign Service, are to be discharged to the Flag Ship's Books.

As an inducement to seamen to render themselves proficient in all branches of their duty; my Lords are pleased to direct that a higher class of able-seaman be established, under the denomination of "leading seaman," and with an addition pay of 2d a day each. To consist of men who are thorough helms-men, and leads-men, able to assist in repairing sails, and who are practical riggers, capable of doing duty as such in any part of a ship; to undergo an examination for rating, conducted by the Commander, Senior Lieutenant, Master and Boatswain; wear a badge of distinction, according to pattern ; to be exempted from corporal punishment, except by sentence of court martial, or for mutiny, to be reduced for the committal of any grave offence in the same manner as petty officers, having been first deprived of any good conduct badges they may possess.

The number of leading-men in each ship to be according to the schemes of complement annexed hereto. The increased pay of 2d a day is to be allowed without reference to a man entering for continuous service. Seamen-gunners of both classes, if duly qualified as leading seamen, are to receive the above 2d a day, in addition to their pay as seamen-gunners. A new rating of "shipwrights" is to be established. One-third of the carpenter's crew is to be composed of this class.

Shipwrights are to be granted 2d a day each in addition to the pay of the carpenter's crew, and tool money as at present, irrespective of their term of service. Their qualification is to be ascertained by examination, previous to their being so rated: The pay and duties of 2nd Class ordinary seamen and landmen being identical, the latter rating is to be abolished. Time served as 2nd Class ordinary seamen is, prospectively, to count as time served as ordinary seamen, for the good conduct badge and pay. Men Absent without leave or imprisoned: Men and boys who have absented themselves without leave, or who have wilfully overstaid their leave more than 48 hours are to forfeit their pay; but the allotment is not to be stopped during the period of their absence; and men or boys sent to gaol by the sentence of a civil magistrate for any offence committed within the United Kingdom or British Colonies, are likewise to be mulcted of their pay, during the period of their confinement; the amount of pay forfeited is to be charged against them on the Ship's Books by the Captain; unless under special circumstances, to be represented by the Captain, the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, or the Commander-in-Chief on a foreign station, should think proper otherwise to direct.

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In all cases of mulct of pay, the circumstances are to be duly noted in the ship's log, and in the quarterly return of punishments. This regulation is not to interfere with the directions contained in the Queen's Regulations, Art 5, Page , relating to men absent without leave when a ship is about to proceed to sea. Conveyance of seamen to their homes when paid off: On ships being put out of commission, every facility is to be given, consistently with the convenience of the service for conveying the men paid off to such of the ports, frequented by Her majesty's Ships, as may be nearest to their places of residence.

Commanders, under Captains in rated ships, are to be allowed a servant; to be borne and paid as a second class ordinary seaman. My Lords are of the opinion that the system under which seamen-gunners are now entered requires modification, with a view both to its increased efficiency and extension.

They are therefore pleased to direct, that men who may hereafter enter as seamen-gunners, be divided into two classes. The 1st class to be eligible to be promoted to the situation of gunner's mates and gunners; the 2nd class should be held qualified to perform the duty of captains of guns. The existing regulations relating to seamen-gunners who have already been entered for five years are to remain in force, except as regards men who volunteer for continuous service, and who may be deemed eligible for either of the above classes.

In entering men hereafter for the "Excellent" preference is to be given to those who volunteer for continuous and general service. My Lords consider that it would improve the discipline of Her Majesty's ships and be in other respects advantageous to the service, to establish a class of chief petty officer; they therefore direct that the following be established accordingly:. Petty officers who enter for continuous service are to carry their denominations as chief, first, or second class petty officers from ship to ship; it being left open to the captains of the ships which they may join to assign the specific rating best suited to the character and abilities of the individuals.

Examination for the rating of petty officers: Seamen before being promoted to the rating of petty officer, are to be examined by the following officers: In rating petty officers, a preference is to be given to men who have entered for continuous service. The above officers are to sign the ticket of examination, which should be retained in the captain's office, appended to the description-book; to be produced to any flag or other officer who may muster or inspect the ship.

As an encouragement to deserving petty officers, an increase is to be made, as follows, in the number who are eligible to be recommended for good-conduct gratuities, when ships are paid off after three years' service, or in proportion for a less period, as at present regulated. Petty officers and seamen who enter for continuous service may be permitted to purchase their discharge according to the following scale:.

All men and boys who enter or re-enter the Navy, under the conditions and for the periods of continuous and general service, already stated, will be allowed pensions after 20 years service from the age of 18, instead of after 21 years service from the age of 20, as at present. Their Lordships also reserve to themselves a discretionary power of awarding pensions of 6d a day each, after ten years service, from the age of 18, and pensions of 8d a day each, after 15 years service from the same age, to all men now in, or who may hereafter enter the Navy, whenever their Lordships may think proper to do so.

All men who may be thus granted pensions after 10, 15 or 20 years' service will be held liable, under the 13th clause of the Pensions Regulations dated the 1st January , to serve again in the Navy if required, in the event of an armament, or war; and when so serving, will be allowed their Pensions, and the Pay of the ratings they may hold. The time any continuous service man may serve after the age of 18, will count for pension without reference to the rating held. Time served in the Navy under the existing system will be allowed to count with time under the new system, in awarding the above pension.

The circumstances of a man not having completed the specific term of continuous service under the new system for which he entered, will not preclude his being granted a pension after 10 or 15 years combined service, whenever their Lordships shall think proper to grant pensions after those periods. Petty officers who have completed 15 or 20 years' service will, when pensioned, be granted double the present allowance for the time they have served as a petty officer, provided they shall have entered, and served for one continuous period of not less than ten years, unless invalided for wounds or hurts received on duty; that they shall have been discharged with the rating of petty officer; and that their character in such rating shall have been "very good".

In order that seamen may avail themselves of the advantages contingent upon the new terms,, my Lords desire that these advantages be distinctly explained to them. They may be briefly recapitulated as follows:. Continuous service men will be entitled to the rates of pay stated at page Pensions will be granted after 20 years' service from the age of 18, instead of after 21 years from the age of 20; and as leave will be allowed when Ships are paid off, during which time and pay will be continued, it follows that seamen entering under or about the age of 18, will receive the same amount of pension for less than 19 years actual service than they would have received under the present system for 23 years actual service.

After the Napoleonic wars the problem of skills retention became particularly acute in the gunnery department.

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In a school, HMS Excellent, was established at Portsmouth to teach gunnery while the manning policy was amended to make it possible to retain trained gunners in the service for five years at a time and to pay them for their specialization. These men were given the non-substantive ratings of Seamen Gunners and Gunnery Instructors. Based partly on the success of these reforms, the concept of continuous service evolved and by was made available to most seamen in the service. This made it possible for a man to serve continuously for 20 years or more in some cases and to draw a pension after as little as ten years service.

As a further incentive, the promotional ladder was improved by the addition of two more substantive rates to provide for increases in pay and advancement over time. Career prospects were futher enhanced by improvements to pensions and conditions of service. As warships became more complex, so the benefits of having a permanent organization of trained ratings became increasingly evident. Eventually the other branches were brought into line so that all lower deck personnel served under the same terms and were more or less organized according to the same hierarchy.

By the eve of World War One the process was almost complete and the framework of the Seaman Branch that would support the RN through two World Wars and into the nuclear age was well defined.

Canada's Boy Seamen

Boy's time did not count for pension, promotion or seniority. At the beginning of the 20th C boys' training moved ashore.

In the term Boy Seaman was altered to Junior Seaman. Youths are still accepted into the RN as young as 15 years, 9 months. A term used from very early times. Denoted a raw, trainee, adult entry or inexperienced pressed man.

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The lowest grade of adult entry seaman. The term was abolished in under Admiralty Circular No. A rating from earliest times denoting a man having from one to one and a half years seagoing experience and possessing the rudiments of seamanship.

Canada's Boy Seamen

The rating was divided into OS 1st and 2nd Class sometime in the s. After the rating of OS 2nd Class became the lowest grade of adult entry. OS 2nd Class was discontinued sometime in the early s.

Another very early rating. In , as part of the reforms that followed the defeat at the Battle of Dungeness the previous year, the Royal Navy introduced a new pay scale that, for the first time, specified separate pay for Ordinary and Able Seamen. The AB was an experienced seaman capable of performing a specific range of duties. Traditionally, he could "hand, reef, and steer", i. Originally defined as a "higher grade of AB". The leading seaman was qualified to take charge of a small body of men and could demonstrate at least an intermediate skill level.

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