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If you look like a duck, quack like a duck, you're a dang duck. I shall consider you thus. I finally left in disgust in There is very little difference between them and the "Resistance" - only one of degree. If I may ask, where did you go when you left? I thought the SSPX might prove to be the remnant church.

I suspect that it is impossible to operate a school in these places without at least pretending to go along with it. I guess this is sort of the consequelism end justifies the means. However, I strongly suspect that the SSPX is not in favor of these things and, in fact, does everything it can to discourage these things. Bring this matter to Fr. Couture, to be fair. If he still does not act, then we will know for certain his true colours. Where is the voice of the SSPX hierarchy in this current crisis?


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If you are outside the 'gays', what rights do you have to tell someone you believe that they are a self centred bunch who dont give a hoot for the feelings, beliefs and wishes of the vast majority. Go about your business but dont ram it down our throats at EVERY turn,dont expect us to bow to your every whim. The gay society are dragging civilisation to the edge of the Abyss. Or do we now have to rethink and rewrite the Dictionaries? How anyone who calls themself Christian, or Jew,or Muslim can be associated with support for such perversion I cant understand.

What faith, or standards or morals or culture,or tradition, do they adhere to? Where were the consciences of MPs etc. God save us from such as these. Party and 'progress' before Faith and Morals. All too prevalent in todays politics. Wonderful intent, is it not. Makes you proud to think that your elected candidate was involved -- and didnt even hesitate to say AYE.

Would you like to have been brought up in a, Home? What confusion, what trauma! Perhaps there is a very simple remedy,- all gays who wish children should simply disappear into the woods or hills or desert and have children, with no outside interference. Nature [ GOD ] is the great discriminator. Next time you vote -- think well on it. Give it much more attention and scrutiny than ever before.

If not, our children and grand children will grow up so confused and betrayed by what has come to be accepted as normal,that they will probably wish 'WE' had never been born. I am not gay but I dont think they have the right to campaign to hate gays in public. There would be no issue if this gentleman had refused entry to a homosexual couple in his own home.

I wouldn't mind giving him my two cents about tolerance, and why being gay isn't morally wrong, but it would be a private matter. However, as it is the gentleman's business - a bed and breakfast - in question, the matter is different. His business operates in the market, which is constrained by certain public norms, rights and wrongs. As we know with employment and housing laws, the spirit of the statutes governing the market preclude descimination based on group membership.

Christian, Jew, gay, straight: Luckily we have a secular law which for the most part rises above petty sectarian prejudice. The gentleman in question should abide by it. His freedom of conscience remains, as this act of deference does not can not change his heart. He's free to think his backwards bigoted thoughts. Lucky we are that many of today's dissenters are the backwards ones. Things would be far worse if they ruled the roost.

While we hoist high the flag of Liberalism - taboos will perpetually be targeted This debate reflects fears of unintended consequences or dysfunctional outcomes from the law. What is needed is less religious rhetoric from one side, and less feminism from the other. The volume and complexity of Govt regulations on private sector businesses is potentially choking them.

The regulations are intended to protect the public and are a consequence of laws passed by Govt. The private sector business is therefore providing a regulated service, subject to oversight by a multitude of inspection regimes. In order to preserve some element of personal choice, for business owners and the public, the State should legislate for a third type of business service provider - let's call it the private club. Such a club, be it a pub, hotel, restaurant or whatever would be allowed to disciminate positively or negatively, depending upon market opportunities.

For example, a pub-club would be allowed to permit smoking. Employees and customers of such a place would sign an indemnity which would indemnify taxpayers from lawsuits from people who later claim to be effected by smokers. In such a place, drink prices would be higher and standards of ventilation etc would apply.

Restricting business opportunity and personal liberty in order to arrive at the lowest common denominator would result in fewer businesses, less competition, higher prices and poorer service. Let them operate alongside existing businesses. The answer is choice. Gay friendly places to advertise as such, thus avoiding embarrasment. Smoking pubs to operate beside non-smoking pubs. This Government has forgotten that the market is usually good at sorting out problems like this.

A devout Christian who offers a service target exclusively at fellow worshippers will make money in some places, and lose in others. In India, the Gays are completely isolated from the main stream. They have no voting rights,people of same sex can not legally wed and consequently they congregate separately and lead their lives like gypsies do. There has not been sofar any move by both the houses of Parliament to enforce any act to give these unfortunate people basic rights to lead a normal life like any other. The constitution of India, in its present form, has no provision for Gays, and subsequent Governments during the past 50 years have not thought it fit to give equal rights to Gays to enjoy the fruits of their labours and lead a independent and meaningful lives by getting all the benefits that others are entitled in a democratically ruled country.

But religious leaders of every theology have had some kind of resposibilty making people known of its profiles of future when the question comes up with the human excistence. Any kind of discriminations won't be accepted for whole issue is highly bound with personal affairs. Let the world be sober atleast for once. If dogs and animals know their mates and never make a mistake, what more of human beings.

Those who are demonstrating have knowledge of how a normal human being should function, so let them demonstrate and make gays into normal human beings. Where in the Bible does it say you can't be in the same room as a homosexual!? Haven't you got more chance of spreading God's word as I thought all religions were supposed to do if you actually come into contact with 'sinners' anyway?

Is the Government planning to do anything about Socialist organisations, who refuse membership to those who belong to a religion,regardless of the fact that the two groups often share aims? If I say that I don't think people should walk around half naked male or female! If the gay community and others can say they believe religion is prejudiced and ridiculous, which is their opinion, then religious groups can say they think the gay lifestyle is wrong, which is theirs.

People ALL people should stop being so jumpy - an opinion, as long as it remains that, is not discrimination. What a sorry state of affairs this is!!! Sexuality is not a choice If a black person was being discriminated agaisn't in this fashion it would not be tolerated Relgion is the breaking of our world, always has been always will be. If I go to a B and B I go as a lesbian and never have had any problems If I get discriminated somewhere I will take my money somewhere else Homophobia is just ignornace and fear Hi Newsight I have recived Your message.

I feel happy to share my experience about guys. In Ethiopia there are different religions who strictly oppose homosexuality and the government too. I only just came out to my parents and they threw me out onto the street.

I have got a job at a strip club but is it worthwhile trying to get back with my parents? Joe Ellison, email me if you want advice. Read my blog - there is a relevant post on there vaguley relevant entitled 'Behind the Facade' - blog is reached by clicking my name! I find the protests quite concerning. I am gay and it worries me that there are people who hold the view which have been well documented in the media recently. I agree that nobody's rights should be restricted however I think that when you talk about human rights you need to consider whether the particular right is morally acceptable.

You could argue that a man in prison has the right to have a child with his wife even though he has been convicted of murder Which I don't agree with there are many other examples too numerous to mention here.

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I agree with post , personally would rather not fund someone who holds these views. I would prefer to know that I am staying or planing to stay in a hotel owned by these people with such a disgusting attitude. As such there is a particular holiday company named after a shoe who openly descriminate against same sex partners they refuse to sell holidays to same gender couples in case we are offending their other "normal" customers and I would rather not support this company. I would rather my leaflets be printed by someone who doesn't care whether I am gay, female, white, overweight, middle aged, educated.

You could discriminate against a number of people on any number of issues. I feel sorry for these bigots, if their beliefs are true then by discriminating against me and people like me they are not showing the supposedly caring and compasionate side to their faith does that mean they burn in hell? It isn't so much the discrimination in goods and services, as the fear of it. Those who hate can so easily be violent and are always, eventually, irrational. So it is much best avoided. Often you find people are accepting and welcoming, and glad of your custom, but when hostility would be embarrassing, or one would be very vulnerable - such as in accommodation when traveling, or even when renting or buying a home - or when sorting out the effects of subtle discrimination could be really troublesome - such as when buying something expensive where one's order can be deliberately messed up, that's when one wants and needs the legal back-up of such laws.

Although proof will be difficult. But things like booking a double-room and having to insist on not being switched to a twin, in the face of such lies as that there aren't any, as the receptionist gives one partner looks that would kill, miles from home and without any alternative, will no longer happen.

Yes, that happened to me. We eventually got a lovely double room with french windows and a four-poster. Banning such discrimination in the workplace made a big difference, although it still goes on, deviously. We should the right not to live in such fear. Many being on public record through the civil partnerships register as homosexual made anti-discrimination quite essential.

The shame is that the legislation leaves unprotected those who have changed sex, even though the bigots usually consider that to be just another form of "queer", and children, who can be terribly persecuted by people calling them "queer", or worse, whether they are or not. That's where many learn the fear. The legislation protects only on the grounds of same-sex sexual attraction, so doesn't apply to those too young for that.

Fortunately the Home Office are at least pushing for better actual protection against such bullying in and out of schools by police guidelines. But such children and their parents will still have no legal grounds for anti-discrimination action. I really don't believe that anti-gay demonstration. It was just a publicity-seeking, fear-promoting, membership-growing activity, a quite traditional evangelical ploy.

Sexual bigotry is their last big "difference", rallying call, yet Jesus said not a word against homosexuality. God has made everything perfect Fair enough if you don't agree with homosexuality, but why is it any of your business to try and make homosexual peoples lives difficult? It is narrowminded ignorance from people who are so pompous they have nothing better to do than try to dictate how people should live their lives.

My boyfriend was injured in a car accident. We had been together 4 years. I was stopped from being with him as he lay dying in hostipal because the doctor who announced he was a born-again Christian said I was forbidden to see him because our relationship was "unnatural". I had no rights.

We were both The family collected his body and when I went to the funeral a Catholic priest told me my presence was unwelcome and upsetting to "the" family. Jason had not been in contact with "the" family for 6 years. They threw him out onto the street when they discovered he was gay. I know that there are good people in the churchs and mosques and synagogues, but this law is not aimmed at them, it is aimmed at those who should not be there in the first place and use "religious belief" as a cloak to conduct themsleves in ways that hurt others. And that nonsense that being gay is choice.

No, it is not. So please stop using that to justify your actions. And please stop quoting bits and pieces from the Bible that support your prejudice while forgetting the rest, as it suits you. It is about real issues that affect many people daily, still, now, as you read this. And this law will make a difference, it will help stop what is an injustice and perhaps even a crime. Not against man but against the God that so many of you speak so eloqently for.

Perhaps yesterday He spoke through the Lords. Perhaps yesterday He answered the prayers of those who have really been persecuted and hurt. Christian and Muslim doctors, in my personal experience, for I have seen more that I care to recall, have had the chance to act nobility and honour the hippocratic oath above their beliefs, but consistently too many of them have not. So this law is right, it is necessary because it will stop gross discrimination that exists in our society, that many just have no idea about and others are too blinded by their "beliefs" to understand.

I write this after reading in Hansard what lords Smith and Blood and Lester said in the Lords yesteday.


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  • Normally, I would be one of the silent ones, but your words are true, I know not believe this because I carry that knowledge in my heart not in my head. I am one of those you speak of. I think the gay community might need to be out there protesting at this Bill, 'alongside' the religious bigots, albeit only physically. The implications it has for the gay way of life are far-reaching. Time after time I've walked past GAY Bar on Old Compton Street and observed a straight couple getting upset that they're refused entry by the bouncers, who - quite fairly - maintain a strict gay-only policy.

    This law will take that power away from gay venues and gay people will suffer for it. I'm no fan of ghettoes and am far from hetero-phobic. But I've resolved that the gay community needs places free of straight influence like fluffy little chicks need to be incubated. Until society grows up and is truly free of discrimination, the minorities need special protection. While I admit this position appears at first the height of hypocrisy, I don't believe there to be any. The impact of this new legislation has barely created a ripple about these consequences - and I fear this is a shocking oversight.

    Business operators have an obligation to provide their services in a way which is compatible with the free-market system this country relies on. They aren't given complete freedom to do as they please.

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    This is because we all depend on them. Taken to the extreme, imagine how a gay man would live if all businesses refused to serve him. How could be buy groceries? I am fed up with people who divide the HUman race into dvisions, groups,categories etc. Obviously we all have equal right to access goods and services. I am disappointed that any homosexual feels the need for self defence. Treat these self satisfied ones with the contempt they deserve and enjoy life. Most of us see you as normal, ordinary people trying to get on with life.

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    Polarised views perhaps create most contraversy but can cause harm to individuals and society in general. When will the media and politicians realise thet the power they wield could be used for the common good rather than fostering the vested interest of one group against another? OK, I know their position and their salaries depend upon division and "debate", but at what cost? The Christians who feel their right to a freedom of conscience will be infringed by allowing Gay couples th same rights they enjoy should perhaps remember that many wars, past and present, have been declared "Just Wars" by their leaders.

    We who oppose war and state sponsored Death on a grand scale find little comfort in our conscientious objection. Care for each other and make love as often as possible even if you are two guys, or gals,sharing a bed. I am all the more happy at the outcome of the House of Lords debate because I seem to remember that in the Christian faith we traditionally are saddened by the image of Mary and Joseph being turned away from the inn in Bethlehem But oh yes, I was forgetting, they weren't gay so they should have had a room. My boyfriend and I recently experienced a great deal of difficulty in renting a property.

    Despite both being professionals in full-time employment, despite having paid for a full reference check and filled in multiple forms, we were still met with hostility under the guise of the landlord not wanting to let their 3 bedroom property to an 'all male party'.

    For every moron out there who thinks this stuff doesn't happen, I can assure you it does and on a day-to-day basis. Whether it's a subtle change in attitude, or a blatant refusal of services on the basis of sexuality, it does happen, it shouldn't happen, and there need to be laws in place to stop it happening in the future. Sir, you are clearly deluded.

    You may believe what you want, but you smack of being a neo-nazi. Do you have any recollection of what the Nazis did to people? Didn't Hitler try to make everything perfect once again? That's a good suggestion. But the law that is already in place shouldn't need that, and getting people to sign-up when their own actual spiritual beliefs are quite diverse would be a problem.

    Also the people who preach against homosexuality would probably not accept it, and might even just declare "holy war" against it. And the state in the UK doesn't just accept any group as a religion.

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    A lot of people declared their religion as Jedi on the last national census, but it was disregarded. The law actually is under the European Convention on Human Rights, and the Human Rights Act that there should be freedom of religion, and freedom from religion, and equal rights regardless. Also freedom from discrimination on grounds of religion, or any grounds of birth, and those latter rights have priority over the religious rights.

    Which is why these cults are preaching so intently their "belief", against the scientific evidence, that nothing they stand against is "inborn". The sexuality of many clearly is, and all might be, and everyone knows sex certainly is, and most of these cults and religions not least the Vatican discriminate against women. They just want freedom to use prejudice as a recruitment tool, to demonstrate their influence and difference, which is why parliament forced upon the government that a law forbidding discrimination against people on grounds of their religion had to be balanced by also providing protection for the largest group not already protected against whom some religions promote discrimination.

    Then the Minister for the Vatican Ruth Kelly delayed the introduction of the latter until after the former, and so we have scenes of hateful people promoting hatred under protection of the law, trying to prevent the latter protection actually being implemented. There already are many well-established faiths whose beliefs include the welcoming of homosexual people as equal members of their congregation, and celebrating human diversity of such kinds. Unfortunately the religions, or factions within religions, or cults that hold opposite views make more noise, and insist they are right, and have more ruthless adherents.

    And they tend, more often than not, to be allowed more influence. Despite the irrationality and intimidation, which one would not have thought it was best to reward. If that had not been the case then parliament would not have exhausted so much time to passing separate, discriminatory legislation for second-class status for same-sex partnerships and those who have changed sex, instead of just opening marriage equally, as other countries have. Then such faiths feed on such victories, trumpeting their "power" and the influence of their "god".

    Here's another example, from another angle. A woman I knew well was manager of a large establishment that had it's own facility for the care of the children of staff. She used it for her own child. Then she discovered that a woman she had thought was an nice, deserving, single mother, who also used the facility, was actually the long-term partner of another woman staff member.

    Suddenly the couple's infant was considered to be dirty, unruly, and a danger to the other children, although nothing about it had changed. The manager gave orders her own child was never to be near the couple's child. And all sorts of little administrative obstacles were being placed in the way of the couple's coming and going and childcare. They has no idea where the problems were originating, since she was an nice as pie to their faces.

    I heard all this from the offender, who could see nothing wrong in her behaviour, which she felt was quite in keeping with her christian Roman Catholic faith. You're right, it is because things like this happen that we need this law. Nobody should be kept seperate from the person they love simply because of the "morals" of another person! That gave the lie to the government having stated, in the parliamentary debates of the Gender Recognition Act, that "The Government have always intended that once a full gender recognition certificate is issued to an applicant, the person's gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender.

    And it should cause those interested in human rights to recall that in the same debates a government minister asserted http: She was found to have thrown herself in front of a vehicle in despair at her situation, which included the employment impairment resulting from having been forced from school at 14 when teachers found the sight of the very bright child being spat upon by other pupils too disturbing, living with the trauma of having been made to wait by NHS clinics for 9 years to complete her treatment, as her teens and those years when most get an education ran down the drain, of living in an estate flat with smashed and boarded up windows and graffiti daubed walls due to prejudiced neighbours, and police and housing association inaction, and with multiple injuries from encounters with weapons wielded by those neighbours and other yobs.

    Although there was nothing in the bill then under debate that would have assisted with any of those multiple discriminations, Lord Filkin claimed: It is an unfortunate fact that some people behave in that way and cause misery to people who through no fault of their own are living their lives as they believe it to be true and right. So people are still free to drive people like Paula to despair. And most will be doing that because they wrongly believe such people are extreme homosexuals, which is why they should have been protected against discrimination intended to harm lesbians and gay men.

    Im a gay man I would just like to say that I have never, nor would want to stay anywhere but a gay hotel!! There are plenty all over the world, and we do not have to listen to primitive bigotry and ignorance in the name of their "faith". Let them have their disgusting attitudes.. AS the same way gay people want to be respected, we must respect the religious opinion.

    Most of countries among Europe and America claim that they do not have an official religious statement. But that's not true. If so, gay marriage would have already been accepted for the law. I believe that religion and gay rights must be organized in separated ways. Especially because gay people cannot say that Christian Religions are prejudicial. They have their own beliefs. As the same way I believe that religious laws should be taken apart of the discussion about gay rights.

    A country is not supposed to follow a religion. And the way they want to live and be happy must be respected. It's an inalienable right. You may find there are enough "gay" hotels, and applaud you having that freedom, but I can tell you there are very few "lesbian" ones, and that "gay" ones have the reputation of very often being uncomfortable places for "gay women", unfortunately.

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    Whilst some gay men deplore it, others are very anti-women, using such derogatory terms as "fish" for us, or trying tell us how we should dress, or trying to match us up with men, which doesn't - and probably isn't meant to - go down well with women partners. I'm glad you feel unaffected by the prejudiced, but there are limits to where you would find that to be the case, and others, more vulnerable than yourself, are badly affected by them.

    This I see as the only arguement against gay people in the same hotel. It only fuels predjudice by people who feel uneasy about sleeping in the same bed as a gay man had slept in, but why? This is a quintessential straight psychological problem. I am an atheist and a lesbian,i don't have religious beliefs of any kind and i think the world would be a better place without religion, most of the conflict in the world is because of religion. However, i would never support a law that gave service providers the right to refuse services and products to a person because they didn't agree with, or had different religious beliefs!

    I am a Christian and a lesbian. There are so many small issues involved in this. I have no will to make people uncomfortable with their conscience or with God. I know there are people I dont agree with, but I don't generally embark on grand campaigns to make their lives difficult. I don't want other people to have low self worth or difficulty in their lives. I am actually quite conservative and were I not gay myself I might have been one of the people calling for religious exemption on grounds of conscience.

    I might have been somebody who doesn't understand sexuality is not a choice. I have tried having boyfriends. This made me drink and become selfish and drift from God. I have tried being single but this made me lonely and withdrawn and i stopped working i nthe community. And so i decided to be me. So, as a lesbian I have been forced to consider these issues more deeply. From a personal viewpoint I am not a bad person. I'm not a criminal, or a binge drinker. I work and pay taxes. I contribute to my community through voluntary work and I'm entitled to live without facing discrimination becasue of who I love.

    As for the whole exemption for adoption agencies I cant believe this is true Nowhere does the God I know teach hate on this scale. The main message of Christianity as I see it is a message of a love so great that God sacrificed his own son for us. For all of us. I just wish this love could be reflected by religious groups that end up being so vocal in the media.

    Hello, my name is Alex, i'm a newbie here. I really do like your resource and really interested in things you discuss here, also would like to enter your community, hope it is possible: Unfortunately, the EU remains remarkably silent on those issues where it knows that its member states disagree. On the subject of gay rights, there are remarkable instances of discrimination and even untolerable levels of harassment in countries where the Catholic church has a hold, like Poland, and in the states of the former Soviet Union, like Lithuania. Talk about Newsnight is a blog from the BBC's flagship news and current affairs programme.

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