PAULA DEEN IS A BIG FAT IDIOT AND OTHER OBSERVATIONS
I heard her speak very little about the extraordinary injuries and injustices black people face, I have not heard her show alliance with those who fight racism nor show solidarity with or compassion for black people based on the profound impact racism has on their lives. Tricia Rose Tricia Rose Stay in touch! Deen is steadfast in her denials about being a racist. But she seems to explain away her actions or redirect the conversation when asked about the specifics of her comments and their implications.
Her reflections, apologies and justifications are striking in their inability to see things from the perspective of those she has offended, and how they might feel in the face of her actions. This could be a teachable moment to discuss how complex racism is, how good intentions cannot do the work of anti-racism education, and how even people who like black people can behave in ways that do racial harm.
In it, Deen was asked about her use of the N-word. In reply, she emphasized that she had a gun put to her head and that the black man wielding it was someone to whom she had given a loan. Her emphasis asks us to empathize with her. She has other options here: She could have said: And, my identity as a white Southern woman one whose family were slave holders only makes it worse. It undermines my belief in racial equality and counters my efforts to support racial justice. I am not a fan of black youth using the word so casually, extensively and publicly, but there is a remarkable lack of self-awareness to imagine that their use of the term is equivalent to her use of the word.
Her lack of awareness was evident again in her desire to have a plantation style wedding party, which would feature a black-only wait staff. She thought the black-only wait staff — who, in historical context would likely be performing as slave workers — would be an entertaining theme. Perhaps some of the apology tour could be devoted to explaining her vision for this party and why she thought it a good idea. And, ideally, this would be followed by an admission that she should have considered the downside of having black low-wage workers, who as a group face extraordinary levels of job discrimination and other hurdles, play slaves for white partygoers.
Our public understanding about how racism works today is thwarted by the personalized response that focuses on intention, rather than action. Today, there is widespread normalized racial discrimination.
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One study shows that white job applicants with a criminal record are nearly twice as likely to get a call back for low-wage work than equally qualified black applicants with a college degree and no criminal record. For this apology tour to do real good, Deen might consider taking an anti-racist position, reaching out to black people and honoring the pain many face as a result of serious racial discrimination, and thinking about how she might have contributed to it.
Deen might use her extensive media platform to draw attention to racial injustice today, to show the broader public just how much it saturates American society, even for those who think they are above it. In June the American press and the Internet went nuts over her admitted use of the n-word. I like the Tricia Rose piece. Its not about, what i want commentators to say, more so than calling white people out, when they come on this blog with liberal white-serving pity statements, instead of actions.
My main purpose for being on this blog is for my black people that i love and want to bring awareness, too my young and old black people about white supremacy. I can care less about what you are here for, being i feel that the only reason white people join this blog is to troll us, challenge us at every turn and manipulating us into believing they are not racist. Unless we post over-the-top apologetic replies to him. Then he will give us a cookie after all, and maybe a pat on the head too.
Vagabond, the main way to fight racism is NOT through words. Try getting involved in a supporting role in activist groups in your community. Spending your time working for prison abolition and public school funding or against police brutality and gentrification will do a lot more than anything you can post on a blog. You could also consider donating money to organizations run by people of color that benefit people of color.
If you are going to post on this blog, you should try to not take up too much space as the main purpose of this blog as I understand it is not for people of color to talk to white people but rather for people of color to talk amongst themselves. I was merely expressing gratitude that he shared his perspective with me. Getting called out by people of color is beneficial for me because it allows me to learn how to be a better anti-racist.
Sondis u on a roll brotha. Most of what paula says i just her trying to play the victim. She only cares because her sponsors are distancing themselves from her. Whenever these racists come out they always say sorry u were offended or i have know way of knowing what will offend ppl. It is nice to hear from your point of view. Paula Deen is obviously in denial about her racism. This controversy tells me that racism is still a problem in America.
This is a wake up to call to the likes of Paula Dean and her supporters, say the n-word and try to put us back in slavery you will suffer economical decline. The woman is a racist and her being from the South is no excuse. Slavery was wrong then and it is wrong now, so again no excuse. Becca I live in a small suburban town and I do not think we have those types of activist groups here, but when I am at college in a larger city I do participate in a community service outreach group.
However, what white people say to and about non-white people is very important. At least that was my impression. I read this blog because I like to learn about the topics Abagond posts about, and he usually seems to have very intelligent opinions. Vagabond, abagond has specifically said that he does not write this blog for white people: I read this blog and these comment threads because, like you, I like to learn from the people of color on this website. We have minds and should be able to do our own research and think for ourselves. I never said he wrote it for white people, but for everyone who is willing to learn.
He does write some advice posts for white people though. This is ridiculous as nothing in my statement, speaks about anything close to an apology, being sought. So by his logic, what white people say and feel, hold more or enough weight, than actually DOING something about white supremacy and Racism. So forgive me, if i am skeptical when i see white folks, posting anonymously on a black-centric liberal blog about their supposed, anti-racism. We need more white folks, that try to take it to their people and give a different perspective from someone of their own race.
I watched the Today Show interview just pathetic and she still refused to take responsibility and be accountable for her racist actions. She could care less about what SHE has done to harm others with her hateful mindset but expects everyone to care about her. White people have all either used or though the N word. I know I have. I was never a fan of hers. Being a Racist white person is more than just merely, saying racial slurs in private. Through white supremacy, those words are put into action, against black people. So i can care less about white people, using racial slurs in the privacy of their own homes.
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Its when they put those words and thoughts into practice, that wold concern me. In the back of my mind I was suspicious about Deen, But it chose to give her the benefit of the doubt. Well since she admitted to the offensive statements she made I was correct in what I suspected.
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She is an elderly woman from the deep south, so this is the mindset of individuals of that era. Deen you are who you are a racist. To me, institutions are made up of people, so the words and actions of people who run a racist system are very important. Abagond, Is my comment in moderation because of the mock ebonics that Paula Deen made herself?
I was repeating this phrase that she made. You know how i do, i am not playing games with these white folks, they either come correct or get corrected…ya dig? Thanks for the kind words, sondis. I did not know this Lisa Jackson was a white employee.
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This one of those things that makes you go Hmmm….. This is very interesting and puts a new spin on this. I thought the employee suing Deen was Black. Maybe she is a disgruntled employee. But I wonder why Deen admitted to this offense knowing this would hurt her brand? But it is not wise to say this stuff publicly. I thought she was a savy business woman. Maybe she is suffering from some dementia or something.
She said it in court, via testimony under oath in the lawsuit that was files against her buy Lisa Jackson. It became public domain…. I think you are being a little bit harsh on Becca. You are one of my favorite commenters however cut Becca some slack. She is one of the most decent White troll turned commenters on this site. Becca actually is against racism and bigotry from her own people as well as we are.
I can respect you. At least you are trying. It makes me feel like there could be hope for humankind. That is the perfect explanation of why it is not the same thing when black people use the n-word to each other as when someone from another race uses to a black person. Forgive me for my misunderstanding. I know you are passionate about this issue but there are few Whites out there that are against racism like Becca and a few million Whites in this country. Honestly thanks to you, I do have some hope for White America to change their racist views.
Where I live in a small, suburban Southern town, most of the Whites there are very racist. I hate that place and want to go back to NYC. You really come off as honest and I like that. I am not shocked that Paula Deen was a racist. I never cared for her much and maybe my instincts was right about this prune faced old woman. Besides she grew up in the Jim Crow South where she grew up around racist Whites and was taught racist ideals about Blacks and other minorities. I am glad Walmart dropped their endorsement of this woman, that old, prune faced, racist bitch. I bet this is a very stressful time for this woman.
I can do without both. Words, what people say and write, are very important too.
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I never said you were asking for an apology, but rather that you were only nice to Becca after she adopted an apologetic tone, or what seemed like one to me. Surely you are capable of figuring out non-oppressive ways to communicate using your own research skills and your own reasoning without relying on Sondis. I think she just got caught saying what many whites say when we or other POC are not around. I wish our society would make a true concerted effort to right injustices in our society. Why get all bent out of shape about being called a racist but not try to actually eradicate racist practices?
Has anyone heard or read about a reaction from the Neelys? They seem like a genuinely nice couple and they are so cute together. I get the sense that they really love and respect each other. Also, is this Lisa Jackson married to a Black man or have biracial children?
In fact, most white commenters are best ignored — because they are not all that serious to begin with. Most are a waste of time. The only person who has any sort of obligation to talk to them is me. Certainly not Sondis or anyone else on this blog. This topic, Deen using the N-word has been joked about on most of the pop culture shows, and I laughed along. I laughed cause a fellow Black person, at least one with a raunchy sense of humor, would make a joke like that as well.
I just chalked it up to her having an out there, outrageous, practically offensive sense of humor. The silence from the African, and Hispanic American community is positively deafening. Again, sorry if this is off topic. I believe today was the first time I ever interacted with another white commenter Becca, who seems more serious than most white commenters on here , and only after she directly addressed me.
I agree that it would be a waste of time. I will try not to be a waste of time either. In the end she and her kin have themselves to blame and ONLY themselves. They were the cause of their empire tumbling. Their own racism was their own downfall. Do I think they will get back up?
The thing about white privilege is that it acts like a safety net and a ladder. It catches them and helps them rise to the top. Will this happen to Paula Deen. I hope not, but then again, this is America. Racist white people are there to support a person, who has done something very horrible and instead of condemning her, white people support her. I think paula will probably rise again. Look at how dog the bounty hunter got his show back and is now on cmt. He was recorded saying the n word by his own son who gave it to the national enquirer. Watch the clip below as Dr.
Lamont Hill goes in on this goof ball with the red hat and jacket. I agree on Rappers using the N word is poison but the fact that black rappers use the N word, has no bearing on white people using it. They can use rap songs to say the n word and be like im not racist i was just repeating the lyrics to a song.
Like i said they are ok when these things are said about other ppl but if it is said about them they are mad. The blacks that do speak out against the rap lyrics are told to be quiet and stop being sensitive. Scalia struck down the provision saying that Congress had no choice but to vote it in. However, in the case of DOMA, he supported an unconstitutional provision claiming that Congress duly elected and passed it. So, in VRA, he completely ignored the will of Congress, and one day later, states that the will of Congress should prevail. Most whites seem to have a very narrow idea of what racism is.
To them racism is the Klan, it using the n-word, it is hatred, especially violent hatred, for blacks, it is seeing blacks as genetically inferior. It is crude biological determinism. Deen falls within that idea of racism, Bullock does not. Deen used the n-word. She is a Nice Christian Woman. That is why Deen brought out her Black Friend just when they were talking about prejudice.
She was doing it to prove that she likes black people, to show she is not racist. I doubt she had any idea how cringetastic she was being. That was slightly off topic, but I had to go there. Do you think they are dumping her, because she is a racist or because of how she has offended, black people? What would you say to someone? Those companies dropped her, not because she is a racist or because they care about the feelings of Black people, they dropped her for fear of their own bottom line being affected by their company having association with her.
It is the same reason Tiger Woods lost his endorsements when his multiple adulterous affairs became news. I think this whole Deen thing has almost nothing to do with black people, at least for the companies that have dropped her and the press that has been eating the story up. Compare the Trayvon Martin case — it took 45 days and weeks of protests before Zimmerman was arrested. For the Food Network, it took two days.
There was not even time to get up a proper protest a la Al Sharpton. And we know how little black viewers matter to television execs. This has been pretty much an intra-white thing. Deen broke one of their tribal taboos and now she is a pariah. If white people truly cared about racism, they would be much more interested in the racial discrimination at her restaurants. Besides, when I was prison guard inmates used that word to describe other Blacks and each other all the time. I heard more times in ten minutes that Paula Deen probably used it in her entire life.
I feel like the media is mostly focusing on her using the n word and not so much on the plantation style wedding which to me is disturbing. I see what they are doing, they trying to chalk it up as her just using the n word and then try to excuse it by saying oh well rappers and some black ppl use the word so cut her some slack.
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Ok lets play devils advocate, even if some black ppl use the n word i have never heard them say they want a plantation style wedding with blacks servicing whites, so miss me with that bs. If not, maybe you should consider, writing an article on the subject. Plus this woman will never confront the fact that she is a racist. Sondis is correct when he says that it is different when Whites and Blacks use the n word.
When Whites use the n word, it is usually to denigrate Black people as a race on whole. Blacks use the n word as a way to address each other. Paula Deen has no excuse calling any Black person the n word because she is not better than anyone else. I totally agree that many whites use that word to denigrate blacks, as you said. I am not pro speech policing. George Zimmerman had his black friend and Paula Deen had her black friend.
Maybe Fox News will pick her up. Paula Deen will recover. There is a food festival being held in the city I live in, Paula Deen is one of the celebrity foodies. It would be interesting to see who goes just to see her. She stlll has a huge following. Companies are dropping Deen because she might hurt them financially.
Others are counting on the whole thing making them more money and there for keep her, as her publishers. This shows what this is all about: It is the same system which got almost revealed in There was one guy interviewed on tv, some sort of yuppie, right after the terrible thing and he said something like this:. This is the mentality: As long as it makes money. You are right that she will still be around because of bigoted folks who are defending her. Faux News is a perfect place for her to vent all of her racist views about minorities.
Sondis How about my cyber hug? I bet all you white people on this blog are happier than a pig in spit, to have such a cosy system in place for when you are at your lowest and are of need. Put a black person in her place, they would not have, white supremacy to fall back on, black person would be finished! Adeen, I agree nobody should use it. It is such an insidious word. I feel we should have a funeral for it.
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Kill it and bury it and send it to the pit of hell. Most white people in the USA, at least are racist. The decisions to end business relationships with her are likely coming from white people. No business that caters to a diverse audience wants the controversy to spread to them. I just finished my junior year in high school and I realized in my junior year that most Whites in AmeriKKKlan are racist. Not in the explicit KKK or Neo Nazi way but most of them unconsciously or subconsciously think that they are better than Blacks and minorities.
Plus most of them will never owe up to their beliefs of Blacks being inferior and somehow different from them. I am not shocked that Paula Deen holds such racist views. After all, she was raised in the Jim Crow South where it was the norm to look down on Blacks and call them the n word. Paula Deen has terrible PR people or she is just a delusional old woman but both? Here is an exchange with Dr. Do not argue with Jay From Philly.
His apparent knowledge of black people seems to partly come from his tenure as a prison guard. Other parts, goodness knows who or what taught him. The companies that once sponsored Deen did not break up their business relationships because they know that Deen was wrong in her statements. I put significant in quotations because to them, any amount loss is highly important to them. Abagond, the commenter Origin used the same mock ebonic phrase Paula Deen used in his comment. I commented on this on Wednesday and my comment went into moderation and was deleted. I basically said what he said.
If you are going to delete one commenter for this,I would think you would do it to everyone. He probably uses that racial slur when he refers to Black people all the time. So the script is getting flipped, Paula Deen is going after the one who is suing her and is filing a racial harassment suit. But when it comes to lawsuits I guess you can sue for anything these days.
Piers Morgan made an interesting statement on twitter. He said that Walmart was being hypocritical in dropping Paula Deen but continued to sell assault rifles just like the ones used in the Sandy Hook massacre. Sondis, Im on the road and cant even read all the posts up to now, I just want to address your post to me. Im not excusing Deen, and dont really know anything about her ,or her actual real sentiments inside. What got my attention was that there were black Americans lining up at her restaurant and they expressed the opinion that they could forgive her Im sure they meant if her sentiments were real, which I or they dont really know.
I was just observing that some black people are willing to forgive a white person if they really own up to their racism, which again, is in question with Deen, I certainly am not implying or defending her at all , I am more impressed with the willingness of these black Americans to diologue with her and be willing to forgive her if she was really sincere…we wont get anywhere unless we have some diologue. And the Black employee that work in her restaurants need their paychecks. Six months from now it will be another offender.
And, I dont think those black Americans lined up outside her restaurant , who said they could forgive her, were just being naive, or foolish, I think they were implying they were willing to see if she was for real or not…I dont think they were just giving her a pass, I think they wanted to really see if she was sincere, and if she was , they could forgive her, but if they perceived she wasnt, they would be able to call her on it. Again, Im not defending Deen in any way and certainly know its just her attempt to clean up her mistake, and some of it is publicity clean up, Im just noting that some black Americans, are willing to look face to face in a white persons eyes who admits they have been racist, and try to diologue on the matter with the willingness to forgive that person if they are sincere…I think that sais something about many black Americans.
I saw this a couple years back and nearly threw up. This is why we will never get rid of racism. White people deliberately instill this crap in their children. Wow, what a wonderful website. I loved the videos where the scholars critique the film and the Southern Belle summer camp, talking about why it is important to know the truth about the past, not the Gone-With-the-Wind fairy tale created in the s.
No wonder Mejico was so awful. But of course, fascinating stories and beautiful photography the book is chock-full of both are not the metrics by which we judge an excellent cookbook - which this is. In fact, this just might be my favorite written cookbook ever, or at least 2 to Najmieh Batmnaglij's Persian Masterpiece, The Food of Life. It's the perfect introduction to Southern in this case, low-country Georgia cooking.
Each recipe begins with a few paragraphs detailing the dish's place in her family history. Many of these stories involve her stepmother who was named Sexy , so many sentences begin with "Sexy was upstairs This reminds me of the episode from Seinfeld where George tries to coin his own nickname. If I could coin a nickname for myself I think it would be Beyonce. After each recipe's intro, the ingredients list takes the backseat to Charles' thoughtful and specific instructions. I think this is invaluable when you're learning a new cooking vernacular - even something like "deep-frying" can mean very different things depending on the culture, and Charles devotes pages to the low-country methods.
Every step is broken down into simple - but detailed - term s: This is what you need to do, and this is exactly how you need to do it. This is why you need to do it. These are some alternatives you can use to adjust the outcome. Most recipes also include technique pointers and flavor variations, and there are detailed inserts that explain why she uses convenience foods sometimes, or the value of Southern-milled flour, or how to boil an egg correctly for her dishes.
And again, the photography - done by a local Savannah photographer - is gorgeous, and her stories are fascinating. This is just as valuable as a memoir or cultural exploration as it is a cookbook. Still, Alabama county restaurants have so far been nummy and uninspiring, and even a cursory look through Charles' methods makes it glaringly obvious what is missing. While local restaurants seem to rely on soft texture and canned ingredients, Charles treats every ingredient with respect , from the purchase and preparation of each raw ingredient to the cooking methods that bring out the specific notes the dish requires.
I will give an example. You can't just put your name on somebody's work and get credit for it because you look like an idiot see above. The sauce does include Italian seasoning and oregano but it's overlaid with a savory bay, bouillon, sherry, Worcestershire, and spicy Cajun seasoning and topped with cheddar and Monterey Jack seasoning. This is really an exceptional and very "American"-tasting dish, the kind that, as Charles says, is perfect for a church pot-luck. It's cheap, it's pantry-friendly and although it has a deeply developed flavor, it's also incredibly crowd-pleasing.
Do yourself and your friends and family a big favor and buy this book. It's Jess Right is a personal blog that discusses the life of a military spouse, homeschooling, travel, and fashion. It's basically just the stuff I like. Prattville Life , Foodie. Shades of Light Brown: My grandma would love it. Fine Dining To be fair, we've had a few great dining experiences in Alabama. Upon the release of this book in Fall , the New York Times printed an article about her and summarized her food heritage beautifully: Charles, 61, is descended from sharecroppers and, before them, slaves.
She owes her skill to the practiced hands of nimble cooks who could create pies out of whatever the children brought back from the woods, and satisfying meals from animal parts rejected by white plantation owners. Dora Charles on Goobers. Dora Charles's Awesome Recipes But of course, fascinating stories and beautiful photography the book is chock-full of both are not the metrics by which we judge an excellent cookbook - which this is. Each recipe is given a title that is simple and descriptive.
This cookbook actually does bring Sexy back.