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A junior Isa can be opened and managed by a parent or guardian, with others only able to contribute. The account can be managed by the child when they turn 16, with funds locked away until they are M any of the main fund platforms offer junior stocks and shares Isas. These tend to levy an annual fee, and as with any other investment fund, management fees or share dealing fees will be due too. Child trust funds were introduced in , and applied to children born between September 1, and January 2, Hundreds of millions of pounds sits unclaimed in forgotten accounts, read here for how to track down your lost cash.

The scheme has since been replaced by junior Isas, and existing child trust funds can now be converted, as both cannot be held simultaneously. Contrary to popular belief, children can have a pension, and junior Sipps self-invested personal pensions are available once a child is born. N ow stir in the magic elixir of time and compounding. T om Stevenson, investment director for personal investing at fund shop Fidelity, said: Of course, this money is not accessible until the beneficiary turns And pension rules may have changed hugely by then, perhaps curtailing the advantages.

A bare trust is the simplest form of trust, where the trustee makes a gift which is held for a specified beneficiary. They are often used by grandparents or other family members , who can open and manage one directly, unlike a junior Isa. The beneficiary becomes entitled to the money at 18, but up until that point the trustee can manage the investments held within it, including withdrawing money — as long as it is to the benefit of the beneficiary, such as to pay school fees.

There are no contribution limits, making them particularly useful for passing on money early to limit inheritance tax. B ut 18 is for many still a young age at which to take on the responsibility of owning investments or cash. With junior Isas, child trust funds and bare trusts, once the child turns 18 the money is theirs to do with as they please.

If the idea of your child having full control at 18 is concerning, you can always invest for them within your own Isa. T here are problems to consider however. Grandparents or other family members may be unwilling to contribute as the parent or guardian is fully in control of the money, with no obligation to use it for the child. There is a tax quirk to watch out for with some savings plans, however. T his limit does not apply to money given by anyone else. Emanuel Andjelic runs a technology start up and currently lives in East London with his wife Zejna Lelic-Andjelic and two year old daughter Anja.

Mr Andjelic has been investing for his daughter since day one. Are there really enough leftover Chinese millionaires, whom are interested in buying California real estate, to push these prices up further? A single car garage? Probably not much of a back yard? Gotta love your fan base. Sorry, this professional and DH not wearing rags from Walmart or shopping at Goodwill on the weekends. As a SF resident, I totally believe these numbers. And k can go fast, especially with kids.

I cook a lot at home and always bring my own lunch to work. I do buy everything organic, grass fed, etc. I do work hard to save on the food budget. I buy things in bulk like oatmeal and other grains. I live in the DC metro area and we have 3 kids ages 6 and under. Childcare is very expensive. Your estimate of 24k a year per kid is pretty accurate. Sam — curious why they are only deferring 18k into a k? They should be both maxing out at 36k. They can put this in k. If you have money left over at the end of your life, you can leave it to charity in your will, if you so desire. On the flip side, to an employer, the k salary to the employee may feel absurd.

If someone wants to get ahead, then the obvious answer would be to cut costs or make their skills more valuable in the free market. Also agree that no matter how much money you make, you will never be satisfied. Weirdly, the deeper the whole I feel like I get myself into, the more motivated I am to work even harder and make more money. Anyone in a similar boat as me? Great read as always. Though different expenses will come up as time goes on, this family wont need to pay 24k for childcare forever.

So looking after 20 years they could possibly save some of that and use to rest for other things like college savings etc. The main problem we find is taking money to the end of the year….. They could have bought a cheaper house outside of San Francisco but have to deal with a slightly longer commute. The mortgage and property taxes are too high. I am pretty familiar with that childcare study.

One thing I remember about it was that in high-cost childcare areas e. I just looked it up and here is the stat I am recalling: Looking at this data makes my husband and I think that the plan for most couples should just be to try to tread water during the years when you have 2 kids in full time care and make up the difference in the after and esp. In both states, a 4-year-old was less but not that much less. The next thing I did was put down my expenses next to theirs. My kids are older 16 and We are an active family and my kids are both club swimmers, different clubs.

So they each have a car to drive. And I pay for the auto insurance and the gas. Since they swim they eat even more than most teenagers. Could I do this cheaper, certainly.

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But I view the swimming and tutoring as investing in my kids future. No they will not be Olympians, but one already swims collegiately and the other will. And they are in great shape. The tutoring is to help them get into the schools they want to go to and maintain their grades. What I am trying to show is my budget and most likely this couples budget reflects those things they value, and that is why they spend as they do. We have definitely been lucky. So what did we do in the same year she graduated from residency and started in private practice?

Man, I wish mortgage interest was tax deductible in Canada! That would help a lot! They could very easily trim many of these areas. Lets leave housing alone since rents are very high in SF. The car situation needs to be optimized. Sell whatever car has a payment and buy something cheaper and more gas efficient.

Vacations, there are many options in todays day and age to travel and enjoy time off work without spending that much money. Travel hacking, using reward points, etc can shave a ton of money off vacation costs, digging a little deeper for discounts, etc. If this couple values their time, maxing out that second k can lead to a much longer and more luxurious early retirement. A k family should try living like a family of of 5 living off 80k a year… and a k income family try to live as a k family… then up from there….

How were you living when you were making k sam? This scenario pretty much mirrors our own situation as a couple with a baby living in NYC. Food costs seem low to me actually. What is starting to fascinate me is how much less gross income you need if you achieve it passively. Lower tax bracket too.

Moving to a cheaper area to unlock some home equity, lower taxes even further and optimizing some expenses and it could be achievable sooner maybe now. And you still have high deductibles to meet potentially. No big medical issues now, but having a kid has made me realize that unexpected little things come up all the time. I read both this and the MMM blog to gain both perspectives Financial samurai concentrates more on building income while MMM focuses on cutting expenses. Great point about leading LESS passive income to sustain a similar lifestyle. Bottom line, it just costs money, lots of it.

I like a bigger challenge of making more, and I realize not as many people will bother to try. We live in San Francisco. Here is our budget we max our ks. Family of 2 K income. You have to add vacation and other stuff too. Wow, kids are expensive compared to your mortgage! Does that feel weird? What is the total of all your expenses?

Yes kids are expensive in San Francisco! I pull out the actual numbers Thank you Mint! Mortgage is at 3. Also contribution to you forgot in your article. My term insurance is 2M also not k: No wonder why families leave the city! Kids are indeed expensive in the city. Two of the toughest aspects of moving out of the city is that the incomes may be lower elsewhere if your line of work even exists and less culture.

And I have absolutely no idea how people manage with a lesser salary, with 2 kids, as the following breakdown provides some insight in my budget. Variable expenses Food, Entertainment, Travel etc is left out, as its discretionary. Your budget seems reasonable to me. People might harp on your Kids activity expenses perhaps. Your example is additional proof. Where is your retirement contributions? And when you no longer need daycare, you will have to pay for college.

Just to live in a home with 2 kids. I want to stay focused on fixed expenses, and not get into variable which are so common with kids. I am still amazed as to how others manage it. Where am I over-spending in fixed expense? I felt financially free when I was single, I could control my expenses. Now, Its beyond me, and my understanding. When it comes to our money, we have a choice: If I choose to spend money in one area, I can no longer spend that money in another. The problem is we most Americans want to compare ourselves against everyone else, and want to live like they do.

And they want to do it all on credit but the minimum payment is so small. That is to avoid the cost of living in MD they commute from PA. But I thought they lived and worked in SF? Do they only buy groceries at Whole Foods and eat out 4 nights a week at a steak house? No one is forcing them to live in SF or California for that matter. This is America, they do have the freedom to move wherever they choose. James, I think you have made some mistakes here. If anything the monetary figures in this article are wishful thinking and way too low.

You argue that a person should move if costs are too high, but jobs that pay a decent wage are rarely available outside of major metropolitan areas where costs are high. You argue that people can just commute to work 60 miles each way! You even give as proof that this is possible—someone you know—commutes to work from a different state every day. Maybe 30 minutes less in Miami, Atlanta, Phoenix, or Chicago. Even if it is feasible to commute 60 miles a day—add 3 hours to both sides of your work day.

Leave house at 5: Woohooo you have exactly 8 hours to sleep when you get home. What happens if you have both spouses commuting 60 miles a day? What time do you drop the kids off at school? Pick those kids up somewhere before the 10pm news? This is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. You also make some kind of really strange wishy-washy argument about gas cost. From reading the above, I thought that you wanted people to drive more and live far away from work? A pretty decent entry level car I guess is a BMW 3 series.

Most of my friends in California leased one when they got their first real job. Assuming this hypothetical family had the very common BMW 3 series with a 6 cylinder engine— they would get mpg city under best circumstances. This mpg would go down at least to 15mpg because of the hills in San Fransisco. The mpg would of course be much less going to and coming from work—while being stuck in gridlock. This chart assumes that all meals are eaten at home. Considering the higher cost of food in San Francisco and the Northern California focus on healthier eating.

If you are just receiving violin lessons from a graduate student at the local University, or art lessons from an artist commune it could be quite cheap. If your child is in ballet with a quality company, or takes lessons from a competitive music program the sky is the limit. Foreign language tutoring of course has a broad range. You also argue against paying a very minor amount for children to add breadth and depth to their education through lessons. The kids are already falling behind by not being put in the best schools. What James is not understanding is that really there are VERY few places that the right kind of people want to live.

San Francisco of course is a little out of the circle there—but not everyone wants to live in Downtown LA, Manhattan, or the other places that those on the Social Register typically live. I live in San Francisco and we make twice as much as this family and we drive a Honda Fit. These transportation expenses are very high and luxuries, especially for someone in this income range. I spend half as much as this family does on vacations. Having lessons and daycare is kind of crazy, they should hold off on the lessons until their children are in public school.

Why does a pre-schooler need lessons? The rest seems right though. They should not bother trying to impress people with how nice their car is. Everyone who gets to know me knows I own multiple rental houses in San Francisco, they know I got there by being thrifty. No one judges me on the basis of my Honda. If they do they are are shallow and foolish and I do not want them in my circle of acquaintances anyway. Are you kidding me? Thanks for the comic relief!! I lived across SF on the east bay because it was sunny whereas there was perhaps one or two SF neighborhoods that would get sun — if there was sun.

My place was 17 miles away from work but took me approximately 1. Very difficult to commute and public transportation was also a waking nightmare as it simply tended fatigue. That commute is a nightmare. I moved out to Golden Gate Heights near the Inner Richmond and can see the ocean almost every day now. Just peace and quiet!

Check it out some time. I think your geo arbitrage is spot on…. Case in point I live in GA. One income, Teacher salary with a family of 4. But no matter where you live you can easily spend way more than you should on home and vehicles which in my opinion are the two biggest money drains.

My monthly budget as follows: There seems to be confusion on wants vs needs. Organic Milk Delivery 50, Is this really necessary? Dish Network 50, Why do you need this, just stream content for much cheaper. I only have a few more things. Or maybe paying half your income in taxes makes it all seem less than worthwhile. Either way, congrats on the successful business. After a significant financial crisis my husband retired and I are able to save money. I am 61 and will work 10 more years. Buying a house in for app.

Planning on a 15 year mortgage. At 61, I would just rent and focus on living in a a nice place that is easily manageable. Mortgages rates are back to all-time lows in But I do see a softening in the real estate market over the next couple years as well. The cycle has turned imo. This is a completely overblown Article. I think you are living a fabricated lifestyle, and should really do some soul searching on how to better utilize your money. Your being very ignorant in spending. What is your age and net worth to speak so poorly of this couple?

Have you ever lived in an expensive city for work? Where do you live? Moral of the story is, they should be able save much much more than you presented regardless of where they live. May I ask where you live, how much you make, and what is your budget? Check out the link to the NYC specific line items. The question is, how are you spending, saving, investing your money? Check to see if you have an above average net worth here. I hear you, Sam. Anonymous- Is that your real name? I would love to know what state you live in. My spouse and I make around k combined, live in NYC and save about k a year.

We are young though so feel like we still need to live very frugally because we have a huge savings mountain to climb. Have you considered writing a post about the marginal utility of increased earnings? However, I think marginal utility increases from that point because that is when you can start to save money, and every additional dollar earned after tax is a dollar saved, which is key. I took half of the car budget money as well. I count the money I spend on my pets, my hobbies, running whose costs include the weekly post run dinner with running friends and travel anything over basic clothes, anything above basic transportation to be disposable.

I spent it, it was disposable. I found that monetizing my life made me feel rich. Since I am doing what I wanted to do all day, what else can you ask for? I also want to point out that real life riches are very different from what Hollywood portrayed riches. Just pick any Hollywood movies with a rich playboy executive driving a fast car, and then take a look at Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, you will see a very different picture.

Most of what we learn about riches are just marketing. Thanks for the interesting and largely accurate analysis. One big expense I noticed missing is health insurance and related costs plus dental and vision. Each year, the premiums will continue to go up. Avoid them if you can. As a Christian, You should feel blessed to support others who are less fortunate. Your increase in premiums will support administration jobs and doctors lifestyles to boot.

Sorry to hear that. It doesnt get you much, square feet or SF. Having purchased healthcare directly long before the current government mandate, the new cost structure is substantially higher with greatly reduced benefits. The greatest beneficiaries of our government overreach are the well-qualified healthcare professional in Thailand, Costa Rica, Panama and other Central-American countries where Americans continue to seek high-quality non-emergency care at more affordable prices.

Outsourcing of medical administrative, diagnostic and IT services by American hospitals and medical groups has existed for years. The outsourcing trend continues today across all industries. Some poor decisions and lack of plan and here is the result….. Usually savings gets tapped for something too. I made bad decisions starting off. For the perfect buyer the home might be worth this much — deduct realtor commissions and we are under water, maybe more than I realize. I feel shameful given our incomes and the avoidable nature of debt accumulation.

Are the mortgage loans only for one home? If for multiple, it may be worthwhile to figure out how to unload them or rent them out. That is a pretty hefty hole to dig out of. Fortunately, you are still young. Options obviously including hustling to increase your income, or better yet, figure out what fat to cut. Maybe consider how much you are using your gym memberships or what ways you could reduce your pet bills! Good to see that you have taken the first step towards proper budgeting which is learning about all your expenses.

Based on my rough estimate, this amount allows you to drive km per month. Do you really drive this much? Maybe consider using public transportation more often? Are these necessary at this stage given your financial condition? Maybe consider Netflix or something similar to reduce the cost on TV? And do you have to have both cellphone and land phone?

It all comes down to personal choices regarding where we want to allocate our money. It really is all about perspective. Along those same lines…charity. While its for a better purpose than your vacation, its still an optional expense that you are willingly choosing. Regarding clothes, if these are for the kid, then they are expenses.

Buy some solid, well made staple items that you can wear for years. Vacation and charity are discretionary expenses for sure. We can adjust when things get tight. The ultimate goal is to maximize our money for maximum happiness. Sam — I use this article all the time to show how difficult it is to live in the Bay Area.

My wife and I both work for large tech companies in the Bay Area so a good portion of our compensation is under stock and bonus. We are in our mid-late 20s and plan on starting a family soon. I never thought I would be stressed about how we will afford a family with our income. I would be interested in an article on how to be financially smart about starting a family. Thanks for sharing the article.

Have you seen this article? I plan to write an in depth one in as I like to write about everything from experience. There are median household income families with children all the time! How do they get by? To answer your question, I think a lot of families today are surviving by going into debt, not working towards financial independence, or at the very least, not making smart financial decisions. Those numbers are all very realistic for the Bay Area. Yes, it can be that expensive to raise kids in the Bay Area!

Of course, we work 40 hours per week, so we actually need care for 50 hours per week. Everyone I know with more than 2 kids either has a grandparent do the caretaking, or one parent leaves the workforce. Can you share how you get state subsidized daycare? I think it would be great if we could all benefit from from such subsidies since we all pay taxes.

It was actually a nice accident! The Inflation Interest Rate Paradox: Why We Must Continuously Invest. Get inflation on your side by owning assets that produce an even greater higher income with inflation! Looks like Trump is actually raising taxes on k earners! Looks like it is an attempt to get rid of the marriage penalty. Exactly twice the single level. Some tax cut but not as much as I was hoping for.

Might be time to hitch up and save! That would lower their tax bill. Just goes to show that feeling rich is more about your mindset rather than how much money you have. There is also auto maintenance, gifts, etc. Perhaps if the family never eats out only buys groceries at Walmart and never enjoys a Starbucks it would be possible. The example also only has one of them maxing out their K 18K.

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Obviously this is not feasible even if they were living on ramen. Maybe I should move to SF to get that sweet low cost of living: San Francisco is the cheapest international city in the world. Is it really worth having two income stream or can one spouse work from home? Income taxes including FICA: This is Charlotte area. Expecting to have all debt but the mortgage paid off in the next 18 months. This is a good question, but not so simple. So even if all your income goes to childcare, it may still be worth it. We have two kids — infant and toddler.

Wait, if K is 18K that means this budget is based on one earner and not two or else K would be 36K. If so not sure if child care should be 24K. On the flip side child classes of 5K might be too low once we take into account of summer camp. We earn a similar amount to this couple, and live in a similarly expensive city Sydney, Australia , but our budget works out much better, mainly because of not having kids:. The difference between us and this couple are: We are a family of 4 living in Southern Ca.

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My husband works full time making 60K a year, about 42K after insurance, K and taxes! I take night classes to avoid child care costs. If we can do it anyone can! I would find a company that allows you to telecommute from a cheaper location in America. Identify what in SF is crucial to your happy life and find those things elsewhere. When I moved from Los Angeles, I missed all the ethnic restaurants, but soon realized those restaurants were the element that made life in L. They were unnecessary to my happiness. What I really miss are the long evenings that come from being in a more southerly location than I am now.

Lots of southerly locations in the U. However, the narrative text added it in again. I could make twice the gross pay I make in my state.

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However, state taxes would take out a chunk of that increased paycheck I pay none in my state. I would be in a higher tax bracket, so I would pay more in federal tax as well. The cost of living would be substantially higher. In the end, I have more disposable income with the lower rate of pay in this state than I would in most areas of California. I love how all these people are judgmental about how this couple spends their money. We all have different values and how much we spend on childcare or schooling for children is not up for the rest of you to debate.

I just registered for my employer health benefits and all that. Then of course we both max out our k. We have a mini van that is paid for. We pay hefty taxes and yes we give to charity.

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By all means we are not rich. I will say that at work, my employees make the same as me. I just want to put that into perspective for you all. The challenge is being able to reduce our AGI and actually keep more of our money. You may enjoy this follow on post: I live in East Bay across the bridge from san francisco. Prior to that, I lived in Los Angeles. It really tries to address cost of living of hte area, but also acknowledges that entitlements that I see prevalent in my community.

And i personally know plenty of people who are paying the above. There are plenty of living situations in the bay area that can be had for less than 3k a month. I live in one of them with my girlfriend, but we definitely needed to take austerity measures to stay in this situation one bathroom, two bed in a questionably mixed location. Some people in my network are convinced that they are entitled to spend a minimum 3k on a 2 week vacation.

Note how I took a ONE week vacation, and not 2. That is also something to consider. But to assume that 2 weeks a year is necessary will also cost more money. Anything labeled organic may just be a marketing strategy. What IS proven, however, is that caloric restriction may actually be good for your health as a productive individual in society https: So guess what happened? One last benefit is that my stomach had shrunk as well, so I end up eating less overall instead of eating an entire portion at a restaurant, I eat half, and save the other half later.

In fact, I get a ton of complements now having lost about 20lbs since starting the regimen. If the above seems extreme, it was meant to be examples to challenge the entitlement to food I see so often around me. Just food for thought no pun intended Anyway, my savings are real and tangible. I drive a honda civic that was a little less than 17k out the door brand new, which i will use as part of this example.

The increase in insurance premium alone negates any savings in gas costs that the tesla might save over a honda civic; and the risk adjusted failure cost of the model S drivetrain out warranty as my friend stated that he will drive it for over 5 years, and will eventually have a period of non coverage was more than the entire risk adjusted engine failure cost and maintenance of owning a civic. I frequent thrift shops and repair my shoes. Charity- charity is great, but to be a realist, if your other expenses are overwhelming you, the biggest act of charity you can do to society is not getting into more unmanaged debt.

And consumer debt- I gave you my life habits above, do you really think I have any? Frugality is a lifestyle, and practicing it in one part of life will often times transcends to other parts of your life. You got this far onto my post. Iis all the above worth it where I live? So for those who live in the bay area and feel victimized by the cost of living which you believe is astronomical and unique only to this region of the country, stop being the victim, and challenge that assumption.

The sooner you accept personal accountability in your own cost of living, the better off you will be in this area. Evaluate your own entitlements and accept that some austerity is OK. Good luck, I hope this gives some insight on bay area living. However, after doing the math.

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However, that is highly unlikely. If we had a child and she decided to be a stay at home mom, we would save upwards of k a year more with our current habits. And if she decided to work, she would add an additional k a year to our income, which would totally negate the cost of child care in my original equation.

So yes, those with children still have hope. They are way ahead of the game and should be appreciative of their good fortune. Use the excess […]. Your email address will not be published. Don't subscribe All Replies to my comments Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. You can also subscribe without commenting. Sign up for the private Financial Samurai newsletter! Good luck affording a home in an expensive city like SF. Is your retirement on track? Might write a post about child care costs in the future. Did I miss healthcare related expenses, including health insurance?

That is a big expense item. First, why only 18k in the k? Food is expensive here. Even if you cook most meals. I wish they were the perfect k retirement savers. Alas, they are not. That seems steep, even for two working professionals. Some handbags cost more than that! See you in Thailand! Looks like one of them is working for for next to nothing, once all is said and, done. Dang, that quote is a lot! Sure, in a next post. Will tell them to grow more herbs! And maybe even sell them for a profit of they grow the right ones!

What do you do? I lived in lovely VA for 8 years. Sam, Something to consider that is left out of this scenario. And I will have a student loan line item expense in my next couple profile that is real. Time to get super blunt, Sam-a-rella shake it up one time. So here we go…… a Ditch the life insurance. Each of them should be getting it through their employer. Time to get super blunt. When you have a 3 series, you start looking at the people driving 5 series.

Taking one vacation a year is a path to burnout. Meditate 15 minutes per day and you will not burn out. This is how this post came to be: Just find a high income earning mate. At 34, not so much! What percentage of American households is rich? When do we set sail next. The boat is definitely the signal. Is it large enough to have a bed? May I ask if you own your house or have a mortgage and any other debt?