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Yay, he survived, but he most definitely has a long and rocky road ahead of him. I think what it is, like with most people, when you're raised a certain way, and no accommodation made, you become brain washed. So I think it will just take some time before that brain washing is broken down and Jeff is able to feel comfortable with it, and understand that there is nothing wrong with submitting. I think the other part is, is he just needs to be socialized if you will. Just like with any animal, if you have them isolated, or take them from the wild it may take a long time, may take no time at all, or never happen at all, if only a little bit.

But if you let them interact with others of their species, they will slowly see that this is the norm and slowly start to fit in. But in any case, it just takes time and effort. Some times a lot of time and effort, i just hope that it can work out for Jeff. Yes he was brainwashed but so were the rest and they are adjusting. I think the fact that he had so many negatives to overcome short, slow, under endowed to prove that he was a man, makes him put too much stock in it.

Instead of saying to himself after Loki takes him, "Damn this is great, I love being with Loki" which is what he is feeling he thinks about the fact that it might make him less of a man. Another thing that may help is that Fenrir and the other pups will no longer be actively tormenting him. Fenrir is really ashamed of himself. Hopefully he will do what's right now. And sadly that's how some justify being a butt head about things. This should never happen, you are who you are, and if there is some one that is more alpha then you, then you just have to submit.

I couldn't agree more, Fenrir wasn't helping at all. Hopefully he has learned from this and can be a great help to Jeff, and learn to respect him for who he is, even if Jeff is only a human. They might even learn something form each other. Most people are what others want them to be, not what they want to be.

Most are totally controlled by peer pressure, fortunately I never was. He said Jeff was only a human out of pity not as a put down. And that my friend is a sad truthful fact. So it seems that Fenrir is slowly start to get his act together and turn it around. I loved the chapter, the bond between the sheps is a special thing indeed. Always looking forward to reading more in the future. Fenny isn't a bad pup, he is just like an 8 year old boy that idolizes his Daddy and then someone comes along and monopolizes Daddy's time.

He was jealous, but Jeff's attempted suicide made him realize he was wrong. Jeff is the only one that can solve Jeff's problems. MonsieurFoxy 7 years ago 1. This is a big turning point in the story for me. I'd miss the knottings, and the steamy affects sessions, but if Jeff really wants freedom, then someone as dominant as Woden who loves him so much may have no choice but to let him go. If he wants it to change, I'm rooting for him!

He isn't free yet. That's not really what he wants, but he may not be able to live with himself if he gives in to what he wants. I doubt that it will affect the other masters at all. They are very independent. Dasher Cheetah 7 years ago 1. Had me on the edge of my seat. I was struck most by the change in Fenrir. It brought out to me that the Shep are truly noble people. Had one Idea from this. David has changed to a great degree since being with Woden. Putting Jeff with David now might let Jeff see the change and David could help Jeff see how his thinking is messed up.

Just a thing that occured to me. Good read tho I noticed a few errors that are easy to miss when you try to proof read your own work. Happens to me all the time. First I hate proof reading my own stories. I SUCK at it. I can proof read for others pretty well, for me, not so much. You have to remember that Fenny is the equivalent of an 8 year old child.

But I think he has seen the light. I'm not sure what David does will influence him. Onyx Tao 7 years ago 1. Hola FireFromHeaven -- Nobody can proofread his own work well. You tend to see what you think you wrote not what actually came out of your keyboard. Alternate Trigger 7 years ago 1. You're a fine one to talk, LOL. Are you talking to me or Onyx? OT He is as bad or worse than I am at updating stories.

FireFromHeaven -- I generally post something one to four times a month. I'm not sure that's fair. OT Just messin with you. Although it has been a while since you posted any Dacien stuff. I also am not bad about posting stuff, except when life gets too hectic. Kinda tough to write then. White Whiskers 7 years ago 1. I super uber epic duber can't wait till the next chapter. A lot of work needs done to repair the damage, if it can be repaired at all.

I'm just happy that i didn't have to wait too long. Gritou 7 years ago 1. I'm glad Jeff is okay, but I think things can't go back to normal for him and Loki. Yes his only problem is that he doesn't let himself be happy but now it's more like he CAN'T let himself be happy. You are right in that the longer it takes the harder it gets.

I have finally gotten done with school and started writing again so hopefully it won't take as long. I do have 3 series going and they all need updated. Jim Wolfie 7 years ago 1. The leash almost did huggle Jeff to death! Yes it took awhile, but it was worth the wait. Just try to not let it happen a lot lol.

I am glad to see that Jeff finally admited out loud what his problem is. Now maybe with the pups on his side he can start to see the great things that his new life could be gifted with. I am so hoping that he will realize that being a pet is more than just the sex, and that any shep that would love him like Loki does even enough to put his love aside and set him free he should hold on to it and not let go.

Keep up your great work! He loves the sex and he loves being a pet until he dwells on the fact that if he likes it he's not a real man any more. He's worked to long and proving himself to let that go.

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The problem is his logic is faulty, being a bottom doesn't make you any less of a man. Capt Jolt 7 years ago 1. Love this Series Keep it up!!!! Unfortunately there was no yiff in this chapter to help "Keep It Up". LoneWolf 7 years ago 1. It's been like forever since you've updated. Keep up the good work! Well I should be updating my stories on a much more regular basis now that I have moved into my new house and have finished with the evening class I was taking.

Tell all your furry friends!!! I can't help it if I'm a shameless self promoter. Rowan Nero 7 years ago 1. Ok Fire this is a nice chapter that also shows some advancement in medical technology. I think this was the wake up call both Loki and Fenrir needed. Jeff gets a little bit of a wake up call, to try and stop his Nepolian sp complex or at least address it.

I honestly foresee Fenrir being one of the ones to address this maybe if he notices it. That may spark a argument and more trials for them, but with how things are right now he may just keep his muzzle shut. I don't foresee Loki as a deep individual, so I don't think he will notice this himself either. I'm interested to see if things work out! D Thanks for the update, and I hope you enjoyed spending some free time when ya had it! The Sheps have already updated medical technology, military and industry. What they haven't bothered with yet are things like TV, Games and other leisure activities.

Now that they are entrenched, technology will make quantum leaps. Remember the average Shep has an IQ of and a photographic memory. Medicine will never be perfect because living beings vary so much. In this case it would not be the technology that would have failed, nothing can save you when you lose the will to live. Loki didn't need a wake up call, he was desperately trying to make things work. Fenrir on the other hand definitely DID need one. I think he saw the light, he is not really a bad pup at heart, but was felling neglected by his Hero his Daddy.

As far as Jeff goes he has NOT got a wake up call yet. Intellectually he knows that he loves being Loki's lover. He knows that when Loki is taking him he is happy and fulfilled. He is still not not able to realize that there is no shame in letting a lover top you. He needs something that will jolt him into this epiphany. I don't think you are being fair to Loki. Jeff is sending him mixed signals.

First when they make love Jeff responds like a natural born sub, he loves Loki taking charge. Plus even without effects Loki's ability as a cocksman is extraordinary, he gives Jeff feelings he had never imagined before. Then when it is all over and Loki is laying there in post coital bliss Jeff gets all sullen. And won't give him any more reason than "A real man doesn't take it up the ass. Any Shep will eagerly let any Shep which is Alpha to him top. The only one who tops Loki is Woden and Loki would give anything for it to happen more often, so he can't understand Jeff's reasoning.

Especially since none of the other pets have this problem. As far as enjoying the free time What fucking "free time". I was working 50 hours a week and going to school 20 hours a week more, then coming home and taking care of the animals for several hours a day while I wasn't writing. I wish I would have been writing instead. It totally sucked to go back to school. Lol i was being a smart ass about the free time but damn 50 hours a week with school!?!?!??! In a way I can see where I'm not being totally fair to Loki, but as a teacher who will be teaching culture and language when taking someone out of their culture and putting them into a new one you SHOULD take into account on how they view things into their culture or there will be toes stomped.

It's how I approach culture I guess, but to be fair to Jeff Loki did take him abruptly out of his home and put him in ideas that are -not- familer to him with nothing else besides the induced addiction from catching him. What Jeff needs is to get over his complex, and to be introduced to the new ideas slowly so he can realize what he wants.

To separate what he feels is right and wrong to him, and to realize that it's him what matters and not what others think. This is also something a lot of people need to learn to accept. Yes a good bit of the blame is on Jeff, but another good bit of the blame also is in the way the sheps get their pets. I believe a psychologist would realize this, and I believe in the culture it would be a rather common thing to see "ferals" not adjusting well there fore there would be professionals to help "listen" to the ferals and convay what goes on in their heads to their masters.

There must be sheps who are direly interested in how a feral's mind works. I did hear you got to go to a con though, I hope it went well! Not only was it 50 hours a week plus school, I breed high quality Champion Irish Setters and I had 14 dogs and a litter of pups to take care of. So throw in another hours a week for that.

It's not the culture he comes from that is the problem. Out of all the humans captured he is THE only one having these issues. The reason the Sheps captured them like they did is to give them a culture shock and get them out of their old ways of thinking. Jeff isn't having big issues with sex or even homosexual sex, which were both taboos in his culture.

His problem is with feeling that taking it up the ass is not something a "Real Man" would do. Jeff still has some hidden demons to be uncovered that make being a "Real Man" so important to him. They are so deeply ingrained in him that he doesn't even really understand. You guys are getting way ahead of yourself, trying to put together a puzzle when a quarter of the pieces are missing. Plus you guys are making much more out of the effects than was ever intended. The effect's did make sex the first time much more pleasurable, but after the first few days the humans would be craving sex with their Shep and craving it because they liked the sex, not because they were craving effects even if their Shep was wearing a condom.

It is only needed to break down the barrier initially not to keep them subjugated. Plus the Sheps don't do this to intentionally addict the ferals, it originally evolved because Shep females don't like sex very much. Despite all his other problems Jeff in incredibly attached to Loki and really doesn't want to lose him.

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Yes needs to get over his complex, but at this point no one knows why he has this strange need to be a "Real Man". It is not about right and wrong to Jeff. He had overcome the religious taboos after the first day. But some things run even deeper than religion. There are some scars that are almost impossible to heal. It's not about what others think it's about what he feels about himself. There is no need for this career field because none of the other ferals need it.

I see, alright I'll bide my time then! My master is Khaos so I heard a bit about it: I'll keep my muzzle shut and enjoy the ride to see where it's going! DireBlackWings 7 years ago 1. To quote Woden, "I love it when you beg! Jeff is where he was. Cheers, Onyx Tao With a Shep's photographic memory, the 'manual' would be very short, and rely on diagrams and text that the Shep would have already seen. OT You hit the situation pretty much on the head.

The only truly useful place for a human in Shep society is as a companion to a Shep. And don't underestimate it, the Sheps consider that to have an extremely high value. The Sheps do not look down upon humans at all for being personal companions. They can provide a type of companionship that a Shep can find no where else. Jeff would not be able to be a service animal because there are no blind sheps, their medical technology already has artificial sight.

Yes there is a reason that Jeff has a hangup about being this mythical "real man" that is in his head. It may not necessarily be rational, but it is understandable and very real to him. Some emotional scars can control your life to your detriment. The fact that they are irrational doesn't make them any less real. FireFromHeaven -- Sheps have rendered humans obsolete, then.

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Sort of sad to be human. Why is he unique? It's not sad to be a real human, meaning one of the ones that was not bred by the collective. Being a companion animal to a Shep is not the same as a dog is to a human. We haven't seen much of it yet because David and the gang have only been with the Sheps for less than two weeks. They have a symbiotic relationship and eventually become partners in more than just sexual ways.

Their Shep's accomplishments become their accomplishments because they work on them together. We just haven't seen it yet because the full bond doesn't happen overnight. Besides Woden has a plan for humans. If I told you what is unique about Jeff that would be a spoiler, it will come out in it's own good time. I'm glad to hear Woden has some kind of plan for all these useless not-very-smart humans: Some scars run deeper than others is all I will say.

Remember that the Sheps are half human, they really like humans. They can't understand the collective human, they just don't seem to have the normal human spirit. But the ferals on the other hand resonate with something deep inside them. When a human teams with a Shep they bring out the best in the Shep, which makes them far from useless. Plus one of the reasons the sheps are so smart is a diet that is off the charts in DHA. Maybe if humans are fed the same way they can become smarter.

If not this generation of humans maybe the next one. Tpony 7 years ago 1. I had to backtrack a couple of chapters in order to re acquaint myself with the story. Though I hate doing that, my loving this story makes it a necessary evil. I did knock my socks off when I read it has been five months since the last installment.

As for the lack of 'yiff'. Let me state that I mainly read stuff here for the story line. Not just for the sex scenes. I find too much concentration on boinking and such totally creates a boring tale. Put in a decent amount of actual story and then things get 'nice'. I must say that this is an outstanding series and I happily await the next installment. Sorry about the long wait making you backtrack. I honestly try to make the yiff subservient to the story as opposed to the story just being a vehicle for the yiff.

Hopefully I am doing an adequate job on this count. I'm glad you are enjoying it. Have you read my other series? I have gone back to your stories list and have started doing just that. My second most popular series is In My Wildest Dreams. Aburri 7 years ago 1. Since the Sheps evolved to be superior to humans because of their diet on Eden would the Earth dwelling Sheps have to take supplements to compensate for Earth's lack of?

If they don't could that cause a de-evolution after a few generation on Earth? No just the opposite may happen. The Sheps brought the plants from Eden back to earth and are now growing them here on earth. In addition to that they have genetically modified the earth crops that they grow corn, potatoes, tomatoes etc.

Maybe as the feral humans eat this stuff their intelligence will improve. Another thought that crossed my mind was what roll would feral female humans play in shep society? I remember you posting once that there are actually very few female ferals. I forget the reason exactly. Eventually, from the way you've describe shep breeding, the shep population would rack up pretty quickly and the demand for male feral companions would increase as well.

Also, shep males probably wouldn't want to breed their companions with collective females if they can help it, so would they need to start hunting feral females too? Maybe make them some kind of companions to their wives? Don't get too far ahead of the story. That will all be explained in good time. It's a good question, but you will see as the story unfolds.

I didn't expect an answer for that reason. I just felt like putting the thoughts out there. Thanks I'm glad you are enjoying it. Ainoko 7 years ago 1. A wild Jeff appears! Sad Fenrir uses remorse, it is highly effective. Jeff counters with freedom, Loki agrees with compromises. Sorry for the pokemon sit, but it basically fits the storyline. Good to see that Jeff survived his bout with death. It looks that Fenrir has learned a valuable lesson, one that will carry him far in life. Hopefully he and Jeff will become the best of friends down the road as happens sometimes in these situations.

Now how many more chapters will it be before Jeff has his eye opener like Fenrir's? Great chapter, can't wait for the next installment. Yes Jeff has physically survived, but he is far from out of the woods. Hopefully with Fenrir and the other boys treating him better at least his home life will be better. Hopefully they will be able to figure out what the underlying cause of his problem is. What makes him feel that a real man cannot be a sub to a dominant partner.

Until that is addressed he will never be able to be happy. I'll bet you have to deal with a lot of people approaching this story from a socialogical point of view huh. Wish people would do that with my work This is not meant to offend in any way shape or form and is intended as a socialogical arguement that would be best taken from an outside shcolarly point of view.

Was A bit disapointed with this last instalment, not because of story content but because of lenth and maybe lack of embelishment of some spots Like expressions on faces Jeff's in particular, I dunno it just felt kind of rushed or first drafty. Like their were still spots that you would of written more in. Now to the content. As you've probably gathered from the comment I left up above that's like two pages long Woden's seriously got his work cut out for him.

Because one human being free is going to have other intelegent ones wanting their freedom. Like Gofer for instance and then perhaps other humans with less than kind master's. Basically every and any human who is in an FT situation and hasn't commited suicide yet, as well as intelegent ones who have master's who treat them poorly just on principal of where their lot in life has put them.

I find stories that have realistic arcs in them are more appealing Personal Preference. And if this story does plan to run along any lines of reality then there are definitly going to be some unkind sheps out there, just the shear scope and size of the earth and the number of sheps there that must have humans on the planet is enough to make it a possiblity.

Because human hunting is like going to hunt dear in shep society. It's a sport so a lot of manly man type sheps must do it, so logically lot's of sheps have them. Another thing that will be likely to rear it's head will be a kind of Human Rights Movement A shep's verson of the animal rights movement. Sheps may be a superior race in way of Physical evolution but it doesn't grant them the right to dominate simply because they can and treat the rest like monkeys Or on the other hand maybe it does since we treat monkeys like animals. But then again there really isn't that much of a difference between humans and sheps On a mental emotional level.

Yeah one can learn faster and maybe think like a super computor, and probably do quantom physic's in their head at the age of fifteen. But emotionally they're exactly the same. And to say otherwise is to contradict what is already in place with the characters of Fenrir Woden Loki and the other sheps we've seen. These individauls I've mentioned are the cream of the crop and look how they are.

Well Loki and Fenrir at the very least. Jelousy Malice enjoying making others look bad Like jeff Getting angry wearing out being emotinally destraught at the loss of a pet Jeff again. So he's survived after all, I don't know I think you need to embelish more on the coma part and the reaction and visaul part of them finding Jeff hanging in the closet. I feel like this story needs more description cause it was difficult to visaullize it this time around. The ambulance could probably use more description too, and I would have thought that they'd use a hover craft for something like this cause They're working on borrowed time when it's a suicide attempt with brain damage, that stuff tends to happen pretty fast as I've understood it and the coma would be more from brain damage at the rate of travel they'd taken then loss of a will to live.

Bravo on knowing your medical termonology some more of that couldn't hurt. I really thought that Jeff's responces apon waking were all very appropriate and realistic, especially the ones towards Fenrir, who "Was At Fault" for having pushed Jeff not only over the edge but also pushing him towards it. I think their's going to be a lot of awkwardness between them as things are patched back together with the family, maybe perhaps some wrestling between the two of them could help defuse that they're both muscle heads right?

Also something that would make for a very interesting turn of events would be Loki wishing to take it from Jeff in the ass, to show jeff that a real man can take it in the ass and like it while still being a man. Becuase Jeff does see loki as being a man doesn't he. This might even be another thing that woden will have to deal with.

That seems like dedication and a more conciderate love in my opinion. I'll say it again there is no offense intended in anything I say but sugar coating is for children and If we're on here then we really must not be children any more. And if we are then the loss of inocence that is happening is going to make me weep. I am going to respond to this comment a section at a time.

First before that though something needs to be made clear. This bond is something unique on earth as we know it. It is a mystical almost magical bond that makes a synergy between the partners. If you can't accept this premise then you are really wasting your time reading any further. I understand what you are saying, but the minimalist approach to this chapter was meant to reflect the situation.

First you have to remember that I write in first person, there is no Narrator. In this case the point of view is that of a panicking 8 year old child. He is not likely to even see details, things are rushing by so fast, and he is so distraught about possibly being responsible that the situation is just a blur of images. Most of his consciousness was spent regretting how he has behaved, not taking in his surroundings. Actually things are going very smoothly for Woden other than having to be there for his friend Loki. Again you are making assumptions based on the world you know now not on this particular Post Apocalyptic earth.

ZERO of the Collective bred humans are going to want to be free, they already have more freedom than they can handle comfortably. There will be information coming out that will explain this in future chapters, but it hasn't been discovered yet. Plus you don't seem to understand the level of cruelty they were rescued from when the Sheps overthrew the Collective. Gofer is a completely unique character and he will take a much more prominent place in the story. He literally worships Woden and his family, that part is not an act. As far as every human that is in FT's situation and hasn't committed suicide, hmmm That would also be zero.

FT is unique because of some emotional scars that he has hidden so deeply that he doesn't even recognize them. None of the other ferals captured, and there haven't been a lot captured have had any problems. FT's problems all arise from the fact that because of his emotional scars he won't let this bond form, despite the fact that he really desires it. The fact that he is not acting like a "normal" human is what is causing all the stress in Loki's household. None that have formed the bond read all except FT have any interest in leaving.

As far as having masters that treat them poorly, that isn't happening either. Once the bond is fully formed a Shep would give his life for his human. It doesn't mean that they never have disagreements, but that doesn't change their intense love for each other. Again you are making assumptions that the distribution of emotional behaviors of Sheps is equal to that of humans. Remember the Sheps were created from 10 of the most perfect men and women of the time. These people were paragons of physical, intellectual and moral virtues.

Sheps have only been around for 40 years so most are not very far down the line genetically from the first sheps. They are all much more alike than they are different. I really think you need to give the story a chance to unfold before you make very faulty assumptions and judge the Sheps incorrectly. Again I will repeat what I said earlier here. I didn't see a need to describe the ambulance, just a normal ambulance, plus Fenrir really wasn't paying much attention to his surroundings. He was somewhat in a state of shock and the surroundings were just a blur to him.

That was the feel I was trying to impart to this story. You need to remember that this is written in first person not 3rd person with a narrator that can describe things in a detached manner. There is no need for a hovercraft. Loki is equivalent to our Vice President; they are located very conveniently to the hospital. No time would have been gained by a hovercraft even if one was available. Besides as soon as they got him into the ambulance they were treating him. They didn't treat him any differently in the hospital. Speed of getting to the hospital is much more important in suicides where pills are taken or where people slit their wrists.

In those until the drugs are out of the system or the blood supply replenished brain damage will continue. Once he was breathing again no further brain damage was occurring. To be honest Jeff is more at fault than Fenrir, but be that as it may we will have to see how they patch things up if they can. The bigger thing is that now Loki and Jeff have positioned themselves in a situation that will make it harder for them to bond. I don't know how they are going to work their way out of this when they have pretty much built a wall between each other that neither really wants.

The Jeff topping Loki probably won't happen for two reasons. Sheps usually only willingly get topped by Sheps that are Alpha to them. And Jeff, as much as it bothers him after the fact is a natural bottom and has no interest in topping Loki. Woden will do nothing, Sheps do not interfere with situations like this. Kadoro 7 years ago 1. Linkin is the best at dobies! Aaron Blackpaw 7 years ago 1. It is well thought out, and seems to be progressing nicely. The only qualm I have is that the sheps seem to be ubermensch.

I mean, they have no flaws that we have seen yet. It's kinda the same with David. He is the perfect companion to Woden. The only shep we've seen with flaws was Fenrir. I understand the idea that they are supposed to be the next step in evolution, but this perfection is a little off-putting, at least for me. Also, it may be intriguing to see one of the companions do what the sheps cannot.

My first thought would be to have Woden allow David to meet with Jeff to try and pull him out of the blackness that is currently surrounding him. It wouldn't help the overpowering of david, but would show that the Sheps are neither omniscient or omnipotent and that humans, at least the ferals, can be useful as more than just companions. As for the other quibbles Thank you for reading and enjoying? I don't know how you can say that I haven't shown any flaws in the Sheps other than Fenrir. We have seen Loki lose his temper and have jealousy.

The last 4 that were with Woden hunting David clearly lost their composure when David stole their breakfast and wrote "David" was here. David and Woden both show a little competitiveness in the fishing contest. Also if the Sheps were to ubermensch as you say how did David keep from getting caught.

Any good blood hound would have been able to track him down, the Sheps did not get the scenting abilities of their German Shepherd ancestors. Loki is not capable of solving the Jeff riddle. I've heard a lot of the opposite argument believe it or not, that the Sheps are WAY too flawed to be superior beings. In fact I hear a lot more of this argument than the Sheps being too perfect. Go back and read some of the other comments and you will see what I mean. I just can't win it seems. LOL Maybe this will explain the Sheps, physically and mentally they are superior to humans in nearly every way.

They are stronger, faster, can jump higher etc. They also have much higher intelligence, due partly to genetics and partly due to the incredibly high DHA levels in their diet. It remains to be seen if David and the other feral humans intelligence will improve now that they are eating a high DHA diet, because they did not get these levels when the brain was developing. If the ferals have children and they are raised on this food then it is highly likely they will also have enhanced intelligence. The Sheps have all of the human emotions both positive and negative that any human would have, they just are much better at controlling them with their advanced mental abilities.

They also have some qualities they got from their German Shepherd ancestors, mainly extreme loyalty. We have already seen several things that David can do that were better than the Sheps. Humans who are very skillful at a task and have honed that skill all their lives, can sometimes perform the task better than a Shep that has limited training in that skill. Two examples where David is better are his stealth in the wilderness and his fly fishing skill. Even Woden who is the current but not for long pinnacle of Shep evolution can not match Davids skill with a fly rod.

However if David continues tutoring him Woden will eventually pass him in this skill because of his superior motor skills. One of the things I guess people overlook is the short period of time the ferals have actually been with the Sheps, less than 2 weeks has elapsed. It is a synergy that makes both parties more than what they could be alone. Hopefully I will be able to demonstrate it in future chapters if my feeble writing skill is up to the task. On the topic of pulling Jeff out of his blackness, only Jeff can do that.

Jeff is fighting some difficult personal demons that he must conquer himself. It looks pretty bleak for him right now. My limited experience with it was having 2 roommates in college that were EMTs. Back in the 80's they were always using the word STAT. Maybe it was a local thing or maybe it has just changed over the years. My limited knowledge of medicine and medical terminology come from having a degree in Biology and working with vets as a dog breeder. It didn't seem important enough at the time to spend the time to research the terminology.

I could also take the cowards way out and say that just because humans in don't use those terms doesn't mean that Sheps in might not talk that way. I did enjoy it, otherwise I wouldn't have commented or faved. My qualm is more the fact that, as you put it, sheps are smarter, faster, stronger, etc than an average human. They also apparently have a more level temperament, again as you said. This is why I used the term ubermensch, an "over-human" who is the next evolutionary step in human evolution.

It's not that they are perfect, it is that in comparison with what we know, they are too good. For instance, one of the stronger bonds between canines and humans can be found between working dogs and handlers, particularly in dangerous environments. The thing is that the dogs are chosen for skills that supplement and complement those of the handlers. For instance, a dog cannot physically arrest someone, but the mere appearance of one of these 'landsharks' can stop even criminals who have already fought back against officers.

They act as 'muscle' in this case. In other cases, they or other dogs act as sensors, pinpointing certain stimuli, ranging from weather to arms to victims. The companions in this story, seem to be either stress relievers FT's or confidants.

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I just cannot see the same compliment. I guess I would just find it intriguing to see something that an average human could do as well, or better than a shep. Most of the other complaints I saw were kinda looking at the companionship issue as a type of slavery, and a dark mark on the society, notwithstanding the servitude of the collectivists not getting into that.

Living for the sake of another man, or asking him to live for you forfeits the human need for advancement, ending real life. It seems to be rather close to where my thoughts came from. Does the reasoning in the story behind the abilities make sense, yes, but it seems as if they are overpowered. It's a tough rope to walk, and I understand.

I am just not a fan of overly perfect characters, even though it is a real tough thing to avoid. I'll admit that mine is honestly too strong and I'm trying to think of how to pull him back a little.

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I'm not trying to tell you how to write, but that's just how it reads to me as a reader of both books and people. As for Jeff, my thought is that, while Jeff's issues definitely span further back than his meeting the sheps, and possibly even his competition with David, he can't deal with them alone. Depression and ideations are very bitter, disturbing creatures in that they can creep up on you and grab hold.

Pushing through them is a very difficult journey, and one that many people simply cannot walk alone. One phone call or meeting could make a major difference in the way an individual with ideations sees themselves. I will admit that it was conversations with co-workers and my superiors that really helped me previously when I was in a dark place. As for the quibbles with the terminology, in retrospect, it was a low-blow. Everyone tends to focus on things they are experienced with and that was one of mine. I will respond to this comment a section at a time to avoid confusion.

I guess that we all have our own thresholds of what is too good. One of the things you have to remember is that this was never originally meant to be a series. I was convinced to make it into a series by the readers who thought it had more to offer. In the standalone story I had reason to make the Sheps pretty much godlike.

I had to work with that for the rest of the story but it still works for me. They have enough fallibility in my opinion for it to work, but that is my opinion. If I would have planned it originally as a series I would have explained a lot more things off the bat. But they weren't important to a stand alone story. Maybe the position as a confidant is more important and fulfilling than you think. If you are a teammate even the subordinate teammate and your contribution makes your team more effective then you have value. Possibly a high value and you are going to be able to take pride in what your team achieves.

While it is not a real good analogy, it is like a lineman on a football team. The lineman doesn't score the touchdowns, but he helps facilitate the touchdown. I think most linemen feel that they are important to the teams success and don't consider themselves as "slaves" to the "skill position" players.

Unfortunately, I can't think of something off the top of my head that humans can do better than Sheps. That doesn't mean there can't be jobs set up for them to do that could be rewarding. There are plenty of people that go to work in mundane jobs and support their families, that live quite rewarding fulfilled lives. They are completely incapable of making even the smallest decisions, like deciding what to wear and what to make for dinner. The reason for this will be explained later but right now no one is sure why it is so. Please have some patience and let the story unfold.

I know that you didn't really bring it up but I needed to take the time to readdress this because too many readers REFUSE to accept it. If you can't the story will make no sense. That said I still don't see the companionship issue as slavery in any way. This particular set of ferals has been with their Shep for less than 2 weeks, they are still learning how to fit in so of course they are figuratively on a short leash. They will have much more autonomy if they want it when they learn the ropes of living in modern society.

David actually has complete autonomy now, he just loves being with his Shep family and of course Woden most of all. As far as living life for another being you could say the same thing about marriage. The Shep human bond is very much like a marriage, other than the fact that there is no procreation involved. In some ways the Shep is more "married" to their human than to their wife if you think about it. Or maybe that is just my vision of it since I know where the story is going.

I have been trying to show some vulnerability in the Sheps but it may take time to show it. But not too much, because the fact is they are high above humans in most respects. Jeff's issues began far before David, but he has to let someone know what they are before someone can help.

In Jeff's case I don't think just talking about it will solve it. Some scars run just too deep, to the point that they become a part of who you are.

He will have to have some sort of epiphany to overcome it if he can overcome it at all. Although Luna stumbling onto the Dreamlands and running into Nyarlathotep might be rather interesting. That would be entertaining. Would you believe I was thinking about this literally like 5 minutes before I sat down and read this - granted it included all the other old horrors of Earth's mythology.

Anyway, any chance of us seeing a sequal with Luna and the Dreamlands, that could be pretty entertaining. Oh, hell fucking yes. If only she'd kept the Tome of Eternal Darkness. Might have stood a fighting chance, albeit the chance of a helicopter fighting an F5 hurricane. Performing that in Ponyville should really change ponies perceptions! What exactly are you referring to here?

So lunch is served. And so colorfully arranged. Glad you like it. Nice twist at the end. Honestly, the two verses colliding has been played out in full, and the Ponies won see: The Shadow Wars by Jordan But you can't fight Rainbows. Anyway, the Old Ones have another disadvantage: They have this-and-that regarding humans and a few of the aliens, but ponies are a new variable. This variable literally bucks Gods every other month with Friendship.

Anyway, all those little digs during the story at Celestia and the ponies The deep ones have a certain world-view about how conversion and gods work , and they can't imagine it working any other way. This is Unreliable Narrator at its best. It looks on the surface like a terrible anti-TCB fic, but the deep ones genuinely believe that all this terrible stuff is happening on the other side. The wonders of PoV. Due to Poe's Law, I can't figure out if that was satire or not. The Shadow War is not a Conversion bureau story, and is also fanfiction, not canon.

The main characters are shoggoths and an old one, not deep ones. And the second shoggoths Jeffers did pass through the barrier and observe Equestria. Although honestly referring to everypony in Conversion Bureau as an Non-Player Character is incredibly fitting since anything that doesn't immediately and perfectly toe the line becomes Celestia's next sock puppet. Ancient impossible alien horror chaos gods prophesied to return to this plane of existence and destroy everything.

Humans had the ability through sheer willpower and luck to delay the return but it is still inevitable. With the conversion of humanity there is no longer any such defense. Maybe it was Willy or Nemo. They wanted to be worshipped by beings and to, what I believe, have fun with us. It's like playing the Sims. Sometimes something interesting happens, sometimes you make something interesting happen and sometimes you kill everyone. You don't wipe away the cool stuff though. And so Celestia dreamed of things, of horrible eldritch things that cast shadows over stars born at the death of Creation.

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