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Its all about what it represents. Like what ive mentioned above all the murders against humanity done duirng WW2 were represented under this flag, the meaning and intentions when this flag was designed might be good, but where it was used is the question. And there was a period in time that this flag was stained and you will never bring back how it was before after then Plus please take note it's not only Korea that suffered under this regime, Countries like philippines, China , Taiwan etc Yobi, that just shows how pathetic this is - the design is incorporated into a larger piece of artwork, not even a stand-alone flag.

What a sad, sad woman that is. Let's remember, the context is a handful of students, perhaps with little emotional ties to their host country, kicking up a fuss about the Hinomaru - not the Gunkanki - on sushi bento boxes in the UK, which I learned of today in this thread. I love Korean food, and would often bring delighted Japanese friends to visit the K towns of New Malden and Oxford Circus in London, as well as Soho's excellent and super-friendly Shilla.

I applaud Wasabi's business model and success, introducing affordable, reasonable quality sushi to the masses. Their innovation of machine wrapping each piece of nigiri sushi and selling them individually was pure genius, and it's a delight to see Somali schoolgirls, Indian couples, southern and eastern Europeans all enjoying sushi for the first time. That's priceless , and displays entrepreneurial savvy frankly too lacking in Japanese people.

As for flags, thin-crust pizzas have the tricolore on them, supermarket hot dogs bear the stars and stripes, and curries carry the Indian flag to identify the cuisine to consumers. We don't see Ethiopians, Vietnamese or Pakistanis getting offended. Why the fuss over the Hinomaru on sushi? TV today said that the flags had been removed before the student's letter was read because the campaign was over.

I wonder if that is the meaning of the oddly worded phrase quoted in the article. The Swastik as misappropriated by the Nazis does not , and never did, represent German culture or the German people. To claim so would be a contemptible slur, brother , and throws a subsequent post's demonisation of the Hinomaru as opposed to the Gunkaiki into stark intellectual context. Yes, the Gunkaiki has dark connotations scarred into many people's psyches. Indeed, Britain's union flag is still referred to by a some as the Butcher's Apron.

However the Swastika of the far right remains unequivocally a single function device , and universally abhorrent. Let's try to better understand what the gunkanki represents to the broader, manga-reading public in France. It's an unmistakeable, exotic and dynamic symbol often used in, and associated with, manga. The context was to highlight the manga section, not to celebrate WWII. That's why FNAC used it. That the young lady saw fit to beat a triumphalist drum after its removal speaks volumes about tolerance. The store's business was not affected by taking down the flag poster, but it might have been had they had to contend with a protest demonstration by hysterical, screaming Koreans.

Chalk up another victory to political correctness. Yobi00 thank you very much! Then I confirmed what I thought. I know Japan is very much thought to be as the 'country of the rising sun', in a very innocent way, also design is part of a larger poster..

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Nishoki is a war time flag and does not belong innsociety at large. No one informed people anyways would ever think of displaying a nazi flag. Same thing applies to nishoki. FNAC did the correct thing. The Korean public only made this protest very recently which started in the late s so I ask, what have you Koreans been doing the last 70 years? Afaik it's been available to purchase for a long time, but just -now- they start complaining about it?

Today everyone is offended by something anyway. You mean the other flag. People in the free-world have the right to at least ask that something offensive flag be taken down, and this French business agreed with her whether you like it or not. Though you are welcome to voice our opinions.

Whether it is offensive to anyone on this board or not is completely irrelevant. Great tear down the flag of a country that saved a few thousand Jews during the Second World War. Actually, I believe the "Swastika" is a combination of two "Ss" whereas the Buddhist temple emblem is the "other way round" more like two "Zs". German swastika is rotated 45 degrees to rest on a point. You can't compare those two flags. The patern present in the rising sun flag existed long before the use it was given to it by the empire of Japan.

Just like the symbol in the nazi flag was used long before by Romans. The constant struggle about the second world war proves only that people are as stupid as in the past. That's what happens when you breed hate using the educational system. You don't see the Japanese throwing stones to America because they bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima, do you?

OK, but then shouldn't the Union Jack also send shockwaves throughout the world? Or was that Empire OK? Then better off not wasting time here and try to fix something that is actually wrong? I think Korean's really need to address that big chip on their shoulder. I think you summed it up perfectly.

Too bad I can only give one thumbs up to this excellent post. It's still a swastika. Likewise the Hinomaru can be a beautiful symbol regardless of the history to which it is more or less associated. Koreans need to take cool shower more often! It is an offensive flag in Asia. Sorry to break it to Japan. It was more than 70 years ago? There are some people that are still living from that terrible point in time. It hasn't even been a century and suddenly Japan thinks they are above anyone else.

Were any Japanese people responsible for displaying the flag in that store? Did a small minded little girl take it upon herself to decide for everyone shopping there what is or isn't proper display material? I think we know who "thinks they are above anyone else". Well I haven't heard people complain until recently by the Koreans although it had been used right after the war. And they fought along with the Japanese against the Allies. Who was this young lady speaking on behalf of?

And what logic made her think that this flag provokes the same reaction as the Swastika would have on the French? Making a claim in her own country, that is fine. But to go to another country and file a complaint against something that the vast majority of the French population does not have any problems with, would seem extremist. And that she receives cheers from her Korean kin after proudly posting this on the Korean local sites saying that she is a real patriot is the act of a racist bigot.

By the way, there are many Swastikas found on posters and shop signs in Korea. Even a bar called "Hitler". I just read online that the owner of the bar decided to change the name from Adolf Hitler to Ddolf Ditler because he couldn't afford to change the whole sign. There is so much anti-China and Korea sentiment on this board i often wonder if it is being run by Uyoku. In France and the UK anybody has the right to protest against the public display of something that offends them. This Korean girl and others are deeply offended, for what ever reason it's not our business what , and this French business accepted her protest in good faith.

Stop winning and accept the fact people are entitled to protest, ask for something to be taken down. And quit the anti-Asian and Japanese rationalistic rhetoric. Based on your own logic I believe it is my right to protest against this incident in which the person in question hasn't an idea about the flag.

I also believe that under your logic don't have any right to question nor criticized for what I write. It's not the protester that angers me, it's the stores that acquiesce to Korean students who weren't even born during that time. How can they be deeply offended over a flag that already accepted internationally as the national flag of Japan? Either that or you just contradicted yourself.

Yes, you have every right to criticise me, I have every right to criticise me, AND this girl has every right to criticise the flying of the Japanese flag in a French store. The Japanese flag is not offensive to me, but I respect other peoples feelings if it is offensive to them. You and others seem not to. And will they remove the French flag if it is deeply offending to the poor former subjects of Frances brutal colonial rule for centuries. I know this is off topic, but you need to see my point here. First of all, the rising sun flag was adopted as the Japanese naval ensign in the late 19th century, way before WWII.

Traditionally this flag has a positive meaning in Japan. For example for fishers, this flag represents good catch. Comparing this flag with NAzi Swastika is ridiculous as the Swastika was adopted by the Nazi part and it does not represents or symbolizes Germany. If this flag should be banned because of the imperial history of Japan, then the flags of all of the countries which invaded or colonized other countries at some point of their history Such as UK, France, US etc should also be banned.

Maybe the Koreans can show us an example to emulate by banning their own flag which can represent the horrible crimes that they committed in Vietnam during the Vietnam world? Secondly, Koreans are the last people who can critisize this flag, as they have nothing to do with WWII. Korea was already annexed to Japan in , and they were Japanese citizens since then. Some of them were even executed as war criminals after the end of the war. It is odd that while the Americans, British, Philipinos and the Chinese who suffered a great loss by the Japanese military Ok, I know that Chinese people can find this flag offensive, but at least they don't try to go abroad to lecture other people about this flag , Koreans who have nothing to do with this flag are barking the loudest.

In addition, it is ironic that the Koreans just started crying over this flag recently. It looks like the Koreans always try to find something to bitch about Japan. First, it was the name of "Sea of Japan", and now it is the rising sun flag. And the South Koreans will ask for the removal of Japanese royal couples photos or portraits if they seen, the reason is they were the children of emepror Hiroito, a controversial person in history.

You are the one who contradicting, if everyone has the right to criticize everyone else then why start calling labeling people like "Uyoku"? You have every right to protest my use of "uyoku" if it offends you! Isn't free speech fantastic?! And so go ahead and criticise this Korean girl for making her protest felt. Attack her protest, but don't make it personal by attacking the Korean girl, OR more importantly Koreans as a people. Sunburst image when used in subcultural context in 's to '70's when Japan was reemerging as an economic animal seemed to express a dislocation of values in those days.

Economic resurgence somehow reminded us of the fervor of the previous age when we fought with all our might. All the fervor looks kitsch, uncouth and grotesque. Sunburst image was fit to express it. But sometimes I wonder which is more kitsch sunburst image or Koreans. Disagree in the strongest terms possible. First of all this girl isn't a citizen of France. It takes a lot of gall to find yourself a temporary guest in a country and start agitating to see things displayed the way you like them in public shops.

Second, the shop since no member of the public is forced to enter also has a right to refuse the particular requests of anyone who is offended "for whatever reason" by what their shop contains. Businesses cannot be run when companies have to bend over backwards catering to the political and religious foibles of every polly pretentious who is offended "for whatever reason".

People need to just shut up and stop complaining about their imaginary god-given right to live a life free from being offended or disrespected in any way. Of course its our business. Well, not mine because I'm not French, but if I was I'd be outraged that this little pipsqueak had the temerity to demand we cater to her ugly little prejudices. The whining is being done by a Korean exchange student who has since gone on to brag on the internet about her own heightened nationalistic feelings since being abroad. Anyone reading the story would realize that. This girls actions are receiving the condemnation they deserve.

And that's no rhetoric. France is a free country but why did Fnac have the Japanese flag displayed anyway? Maybe they had a Japan week or a Japan month where they had special offers on all things Japanese and that was the only reason? Did she bother to find out? In any case, Fnac have set a precedent for giving into such demands. CGB spender - I agree that the flag with the rays coming out of the sun is beautiful but I argue with your other point in that Jews know by now that the nazis totally corrupted the buddhist symbol that is the swastika for their own disgusting agenda.

Whereas the flag in question has been in use as someone else pointed out for centuries and unfortunately was the chosen flag by a bunch of crazy japanese war criminals which should not otherwise tarnish the reputation of a very fine country just as the use of the swastika by nazis should not tarnish the reputation of Germans around the world.

German military still uses the Iron Cross and marches to "Erika", a march tune composed for the Waffen SS in the s. American military still uses Native American names for units and equipment eg "Blackhawk" helicopter. British still use the Union Jack and Royal Coat of Arms to endorse their products and you don't see Indians shopping in Seoul department stores complaining about it.

Unlike the Nazi flag, neither of these Japanese flags were created by a specific Japanese political party for its government regime. Like the above examples, these two flags can be associated with Japan's aggression in Asia in the s,, but not exclusively. Koreans and Chinese are taught to hate Japan from the day they are born, and the hatred is reinforced by what they are taught in their schools and by the barrage of anti-Japanese propaganda they hear from their governments and media every day.

WWII has been over for almost 70 years, but they seem incapable of putting the past behind them and moving on. Interesting that you should be asking for comments suggesting there are postings on this site suggest members of right-wing groups to be "scrubbed". Reactions like that suggest a sense of guilt. It is honestly disturbing and suspicious that there are so many posts on this comment board which are xenophobic and right-wing in tone supporting a Japanese flag that, don't forget, many Japanese themselves despise as a symbol of Japanese imperialist aggression.

So Japan, Korea and China hate each. People have hated each other since the start of the time. At the end of the day, this chick tried to guilt trip the store and they fell for it. No need to tar all Koreans or all French stores with the same brush. The Japanese were also using that flag during the Russo-Japanese war and as far back as the Satsuma Rebellion..

Why anyone 65 and under would find this flag offensive is beyond me Tell that to the hundreds of Japanese teachers who refuse to acknowledge the kimigayo during school assemblies. This undercurrent of anti-Korean sentiment on Japan today's boards is sickening - making me think twice about ever using this site again if it's just a place for xenophobes to vent their bellicose hatred. While I know it sounds silly to make a fuss about a flag she may have had a relative killed by the Japanese during there occupation of korea.

Look at my avatar, the flag in question. So be it then. Koreans should have the right to have Nazi bars and flying Confederate flags - those didn't effect Koreans in anyway, and to Koreans, they mean nothing. And Europe should have the right to fly the Japanese Imperial flag because they mean nothing to Europeans. Like if WAR crimes stopped at the borderline of a continent to become acceptable. Nazis war crimes and those made by their allies do not stop at the European border. Now if you want to understand why this particular flag should not be raised at the FNAC for mercantile reason in France but also why the FNAC decided to remove it without the need of any legal injunction, they just followed the main stream position of historians on the subject which is available also at the wikipedia:.

Historians and governments of some countries hold Japanese military forces, namely the Imperial Japanese Army, the Imperial Japanese Navy and the Imperial Japanese family, especially Emperor Hirohito, responsible for killings and other crimes committed against millions of civilians and prisoners of war. And these were willingly. Forced recruitment didn't even start until. I guess the hardliner, right-wingers writing above's views are largely irrelevant anyway. The French business certainly accepted this peaceful student's views and removed what is an offensive symbol in many parts of the world.

Well done that student, well done that French business For Koreans, there has been an unwillingness to help the Japanese find ways of reconciling when the Japanese have tried to do so. Korean leaders have preferred taking a hard line on Japan. This has been especially so when there are divisions in the Korean leadership. Sure, Japan has not been as repentant as Germany that have faced up to the brutal sides of their past. But Japan has been far more repentant than is often credited.

Apologies tend to be given when there is a belief that those apologies will be accepted, at least in part, and that dialogue between the two sides will be advanced. You have to ask China whether they really want or care about reconciliation.

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With China, the gap in interests as well as perceptions is too big for the pursuit of reconciliation. When Zemin went to Japan in , he blasted Japan about the past in ways that prevented them from offering the kind of written apology that they gave South Korea President that same year.

Maybe because Chinese leaders need to strike a nationalistic tone in part because there is greater internal skepticism about one-party rule. Chinese and Korean nationalism is in many ways defined itself against Japan. However, there is a chance for an improved relationship between Japan and South Korea. They both have strong common interests. They share many common values. The Koreans never seem to give up on bringing up history to complain about.

Maybe they should complain about China for a while. No need to tar all Koreans or all French stores with the same brush". It's not quite the same. You do not see blatant anti- Korean and anti-Chinese propaganda in all the Japanese media on a daily basis, not do you see any objections or protests in Japan about Koreans or Chinese paying their respects to their war dead and so on. Nor have I every seen any incident of any Japanese person objecting to any Korean or Chinese signs and symbols in any foreign country, some of which are very offensive indeed.

I know, I live in a foreign "multicultural" country and have noticed Koreans and Chinese carry their hatreds and grudges on here as well. I have not noticed very much of that with other nationalities, for example Indians and Pakistanis, or Serbs and Croats, who also hate each other. That a French store would give into that kind of coercion is troubling, because almost everybody has a grievance against something or other. Giving in to blackmail or coercion to please a minority is the act of a coward. Speaking of flags, Korea flag is more thoughtful, showing the important of balance, which whole world needs.

Instead, Japan flag, sun in the middle without anything else, shows arrogancy and ambition and savage. Anyway, as we all know, Sun is not rising from pacific or any island, it was wrong from very beginning. Have these people got nothing better to do? Seriously, it's been 70 odd years, I think it's time to let it go. As you say the Hinomaru has a very long history while the Swastika was designed as the Nazi symbol. It can be viewed on [ http: As is documented at the same reference, said flag was created during the civil war, and was used by Confederate troops and sympathizers during the civil war.

The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions - African slavery as it exists among us - the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split.

Hence, the original purpose of the Confederate flag has only one shade of black perceived the same by all sane men and women. Despite the original purpose of the confederate flag, it was and is not outlawed in the United States. For that matter neither is the Swastika. For that matter neither is the Hi no Maru with sunbeams. It is generally recognized in our free speech society that moving forward towards positive goals is better than the counterproductive and impossible task of "thought controlling" and "censoring" those we disagree with. Chip on their shoulder or perhaps an inferiority complex.

Ask a foreign person to name things from Japanese culture and you will get a list of karate, bonsai, manga, sushi, anime, kabuki, hello kitty and so on. Then ask people to name Korean things, and you may get kimchi. No wonder you then have some Koreans who claim "kumdo" kendo originated from Korea or that the Japanese "stole" ramen from them etc. This hinomaru-story is from the same front.

It's sad, as most Koreans who I know are moderate types and then individuals like this ultranationalist student girl will make everyone look stupid. The South Korean flag is Chinese Daoisim symbols. That's because Koreans have no past culture having replied up China and no modern culture having relied on Japan. Even Kimchee wasn't red until Red Pepper was brought from China. This is why there were Japanese goverment officials still visiting Yasukuni praying for memories of 14 Class A and 2 million dead soldiers.

The visit by these goverment officials does not help relations with neighboring countries. Remember over 15 million civilians died in China during occupation by Japan. That flag has been used in Japan for a long time. Before any war Korean is talking about. When people wanted to celebrate something long long time ago, they were often shown. Yes, the navy has adapted it after, and still our defense force Maritime SDF today uses. This is completely different from Nazi symbolic flag. It was represented their Nazism idea during a specific period of history and deigned for that reason.

I even feel sorry for this kind of Koran mentality. Over 10 years ago, for a very practical reason, I recommended to set Shoji Screen to divide a space, my Korean friend said it reminds Japan to my family. Don't I remind you Japan to you? He said yes, I have no problem who you are except your nationality. That was the end of conversation. I lost my words to say. I really feel sorry for this, but it is your problem now.

Other wise, Korea should not have signed signed by the father of today's president of Korea the basic treaty to detach every historical issue for ever completely. May be your government uses the historical issues for some political advantage. Korean feel the way this article says is a victim of it. Look at the future. The fact that the shrine symbolically enshrines the memories of commanders who have been classified as war criminals should not mean that the Japanese - politicians or ordinary people - would not have a right to pay their respects to all the fallen.

It is a symbolic gesture to remember the horrors of war not to applause their military conquests. Vast majority of those 2 million soldiers were just conscripts who were sent to their absurd deaths, I think they deserve a bow and a ring of a bell once a year. Every nation, including Korea and China, has their leaders visit the memorial for the unknown soldier during a remembrance day. Craig, well thought out and articulated, but lacking any emotional observation, respectively.

It's sad but true, flags are powerful symbols. I thought a Vietnam vet was going to sock me cuz we disagreed whether burning the US flag in protest was a right. As well, the pulse of the white Americans boils when Mexican flags are flown during parades and protests.

Gee, I wonder why the MSM shows footage of protesters burning, stepping on and spitting on a flag? They represent a people and a nation. Maybe this woman was looking for her 15 minutes of fame, or maybe she has "history", who knows. Replace the Japanese flag and cartoon poster with a German heavy metal band and a swastika, and hang it in Book One.

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Oh the gaijin would be going crazy. The visit by these government officials does not help relations with neighboring countries. What is wrong to pay their respect? I know quit many people go there to show respect their family members to pray peace and ease.

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To determine again to not make these history is not going to be repeated. Also these MP are not necessary agreeing and giving an approval for them but simply to pray. What is Class A? Is that the reason no one should visit there? If Class A are removed? I do not understand your logic. Let us know your idea. Your kind of idea does not help relations with neighboring countries. Among the Buke family, in Kyushu area, that has been used as Kamon Family symbol since much older days. Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you we're born in it.

Because they are ignorant. No offend is intended. Simply they have wrong information. It is no symbolized that. It has been in Japan before the war time for happy occasion. The sun is a symbol of Japan as the country of rising Sun. Are these teachers saying above?

They pushed me a wrong idea since I was 6. I could not sing my national anthem Kimigayo till the age of I needed to see some specialist for therapy to remove some level of brain washed condition. I was a victim of their wrong education in late 50s to 60s. I know many people with the same experience especially went to public school during the Vietnam war, the teachers then told us not the fact in the history but what they though then. I needed to hear so many times during social class why and how the Russian revolution succeed in Later I learned my self that this means losing a war.

The last 68 years, Japan was lost in many ways. Any way, I recommend you speak other group of Japanese people as well. Japan is free country, I respect they have their opinion even though I disagree with those teachers. But you say many people, are minority for sure. I do not know how long I live from now, but I want to feel that I am happy to be born in my country. I am some level still fighting with after war suppressed education. My uncle was a navy solder but still I can not visit Yasukuni comfortably.

It was also used when Korea, due to its government's incompetence, failed to organize itself and wound up being annexed by Japan. But perhaps that part was too humiliating to admit. While most people don't think of it in such terms, technically, we are still in Imperial Japan, so this must be true Certainly, one has the freedom of speech, and certainly a "thesis" asking to remove the flag is just fine. However, as a university student representing your country aboard, surely a more general, objective and even-handed analysis is expected.

If this represents the intellectual capacity and objectivity of the average Korean university student, I'll be sorely disappointed. If it is not, she is being a disgrace to her nation. Let's not think about the scenario that she is the best Korea has to offer Yup indeed, but like what I've posted above, The Flag maybe designed with clear intentions, but many crimes were done under this flag.

That's a pretty self-serving reason for invading a neighbor! By the same logic, what's to keep Canada from using that as a pretext to annex the disorganized and incompetent USA? By accepting the fund they would have ruled themselves out of future fair reparations for the heinous crimes committed against them. It speaks volumes that you don't get this. The Swastik as misappropriated by the Nazis does not, and never did, represent German culture or the German people. Yes for Japan this old flag means something else, but during the war this represented The oppressors to the countries that they've invaded.

Yes for the Japanese people this means something else, but for the victims this symbolizes the OLD Japan that once committed crimes against humanity like what the Nazis did. There is a place in Kyoto misnamed Mimizuka mound of ears where is buried the salt pickled noses of 38, Koreans and Chinese from the Japanese invasion of Korea in They were shipped back to Japan by the barrels and eventually buried there.

We never hear mention of this. Lets hope there is a good chance we wont have to hear about the former either in another years. So you are not against hanging Nazi flags then? It could be beautiful indeed but now it was already stained. True, but we do not hear other countries except South Korea and China make petty comments and "cry" about their victimhood all the time. Some nations have moved on and others still like to never let go of the past.

I don't see what the big deal is. The Japanese navy still uses practically the same flag as their standard. It's fine for you all to have an opinion on this matter and honestly it really doesn't matter what we all think and write here. At the end of the day, the French store agreed with the student and took it down. If you fell strongly against that, you should email the company too to do something about it.

I admire the student for taking action to change something she felt was wrong and I would praise anyone, regardless of nationality, for trying to make a difference. For those arguing that the hinomaru and swastika cannot be directly compared due to historical use of the hinomaru before the 20th century, point well taken and thanks for the info. However, the word 'negro' was also widely used and even at some points in time preferred over 'colored' or 'black' to describe people of African origin. Don't think you'll find anyone using it these days though.

What's important is not the dictionary definition, but context and emotional impact. I am not implying anything about the Nazi singes and people who would want them removed. That is how you choose to interpret my post which makes my point - at the end of the day it is not what object you see but how you choose or have been conditioned to think about it.

Many foreigners in Japan who have been here for some time are tired of hearing such stories about SK and their constant bashing of Japan. As I wrote, it is true that the Imperial army did terrible things but the modern Japanese have nothing to do with those crimes and have paid billions and billions of dollars or trillions of yen if you prefer to support the economic development of these two countries. Yet, all the good Japan has done after the WW2 has been ignored or conveniently forgotten and every so often we get to read stories like the one above.

You seem to have confused reason with justification. I did not say it is a justification. I did say it is the primary reason. The simple thing is, Korea had more or less the same opportunity as Japan to get its act together upon contact with the West.

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That was the primary reason she was annexed - if she has used the chance to arm and modernize itself, it would have been impossible for Japan to subjugate her, at least not so completely. But she didn't, and that was that. By accepting the fund they would have ruled themselves out of future fair reparations for the einous crimes committed against them. Actually, the Korean government agreed to settle for a set amount of loans and grants in At that point, they already have no legal justification for getting money out of Japan.

So the Asia Women Fund is really an ex gratia payment and the best they can realistically accept. As for why no money flowed into their pockets? If Japan accepts Korea's demand, it accepts the concept that any other nation can change their agreements with Japan in their favor unilaterally. Obviously, this is just not on. I did not say it is a justification either. In fact you quoted me and I used the word "reason. What part of "same" don't you understand? Any of you has a link to the real event? There is nothing anywhere. No photos of the window of the Fnac, nada.

Looks like an invention to fuel some battles of nationalist netizens. There are books published with that flag, movies using it, and idem with swatiska, and in such a context, they could appear in a bookstore window. Cos did you try searching for the story in Japanese? Maybe you should try before you make uninformed remarks like "nothing anywhere. She is not bashing Japan , she just asked the shop to remove a symbol that she finds offensive. And that flag like the Nazi swastika reminds their victims of the past.

I live in Japan too , I dont think the flag represents the whole Japanese culture, however it represents that period of time when Japanese Empire committed these war crimes, So as the Swastika, It represents a dark past of Germany that others might still find offensive until now , but it doesnt really represent the German culture and German people. I live in Japan too I never hear Koreans and Chinese here crying over WW2, I see Noisy Right wingers bashing foreigners waving this flag and drive around the city though.

I think the US occupation authorities did a poor job. They should have vetted the postwar government of hardcore imperialists, nationalists or apologists from the start. They should have included denunciation of Japan's wartime past in the constitution and banned nationalist symbols. Free speech is not hate speech and hate speech has no place a modern democracy. They should have bulldozed Yasukuni and built a memorial to Japan's victims. I dont think the flag represents the whole Japanese culture, however it represents that period of time when Japanese Empire committed these war crimes, So as the Swastika, It represents a dark past of Germany that others might still find offensive.

Then how about the Union flag of the UK which flew proudly over Ireland as hundreds of thousands starved, and over India and East Africa where unspeakable atrocities occurred in the name of empire. Do you think that ought to be removed from public view too? The Korean student would be within her rights to object if she had a solid knowledge of what it is she is protesting. The problem is, it's incorrect to say a Japanese military flag still in current use can be equated with display of Nazi symbols that are illegal in Germany and Austria. Essentially, she is saying "As a Korean I don't like Japan and when I come to your store the sight of anything Japanese is going to remind me of Korean's pain and suffering.

The main two things that have my BS detector flashing are that the French aren't known for being politicaly correct and that all google can offer us that might be pertinent - even searcing in French - is JT's article, and the link to buy the flag on the FNAC site! She is not but I fail to understand why she, a student who was born several generations after the WW2 when the terrible things she stated as a reason for being offended happened, got so emotional as to ask the removal of a flag used in an advertising campaign.

This was no political campaign, and it was carried out in and by a third side country. Such reactions are obviously a product of an educational system which teaches students to not let go of the past, to say the least. So how did she personally suffer from the actions of Japan? If anything, I would rather think that she and her parents benefited from the infrastructure built with the financial assistance from Japan I dont think the flag represents the whole Japanese culture, however it represents that period of time when Japanese Empire committed these war crimes,.

There is obviously a leap in logic in yours as well as hers. First your statement has very little basis and is completely subjective. YOU think it represents that period therefore you are reacting in which I find it to be irrational. Second in a earlier post of yours you wrote that the flag insults her nation Republic of Korea but ROK was not even born during WW2 since the Korean peninsula was part of Japan which I guess many Koreans hates to be reminded of but that is the fact. I can firmly say that they didn't understand the concept of annexation due to this simple fact.

Last and most important see demanded that the image of the flag to be removed as if she a represents the entire feeling of the "the countries of Asia" which made her "patriotic feelings had deepened" but if you really think about it the first really doesn't connect with the second unless her "patriotic duties" were to denounce past Japanese acts in which has nothing to do with her own nation. At the end as many had posted it all boils down to indoctrination of hate towards Japan with a load of inferiority complex since patriotism is about promoting your own nation not denouncing others.

Yes, you used "reason", but "reason" is a word with some arc, and based on the other words in your sentence, such as "self-serving", I interpreted that you are using "reason" in the same way you will use "justification", while to me I'm using "reason" without the justification part. Justification, to me, incorporates a value judgment, as in "Korea is weak, so Japan is right in grabbing her. I live in Japan too , I dont think the flag represents the whole Japanese culture, however it represents that period of time when Japanese Empire committed these war crimes,.

And there's your mistake, because the flag does represent the "whole Japan" only next to the Hinomaru , and this student mis-represents it to only represent WWII Imperial Japan. By this logic, you can say that the name Japan can be found offensive and call it not Japan-bashing because while you don't think the name "Japan" represents the whole Japanese culture, it represents a certain period of time.

Wait, the Koreans are doing it already - remember the Sea of Japan dispute? And Korea was part of Japan, Koreans and in the Imperial; Japanese military doing all those bad things to the Chinese and other Asians. When is South Korea going to "reflect deeply" on their true role in WWII instead of pretending to be nothing but a victim? As my pre-teen children were playing, I was discussing our life in Japan with my uncle.

His wife stood up and suddenly left the room, saying she could not endure hearing the Japanese language. She later explained to me that she, as a child in World war 2 ,had been an inmate in an internment camp in Java, and had witnessed her best friend 's mother beaten to death with wooden clubs by camp guards for accepting a gift of bread through the camp fence.

Her distress was real. She did not want to hurt my children's feelings, nor mine or my wife's, and she overcame her feelings and shared dinner with us. I later explained to my children as much as I understood of her feelings and experience. I hope the experience helped them to become better people, not ashamed to be Japanese but also not too proud, aware that non-Japanese are people too, do good and bad things at times and have feelings too.

The crimes and suffering of the past perhaps can serve as lessons to prepare a better future if we neither deny the past nor use it to create hate in the present but rather to show the real consequences of actions that lead to violence.. Your link is this article, precisely. As I said, only the photo of the flag on the cover of a book that seems to tell a Japanese war time story.

It's obvious this flag is presents in historic book, no? Where the photo of the "Japanese flag in French stores"? I want to read what the Fnac said in French, if they said something.

You tell there exist some nameless Korean weirdo that goes to my country and claims we are not allowed to display books about history. That's plausible, But you tell me my compatriots obeyed to the order of that person? Sorry, I really doubt it. Chinese, Koreans and the Hinomaru go way back. The sun banner was first encountered by the Chinese and Koreans in battle when they attempted to invade Japan in the 13th-century.

And the battle continues You think a person on a temporary student visa is well within her rights to ask a major department stores to alter their displays in order to accommodate her particular cultural prejudices? Rather than just leaving the store and shopping elsewhere she chose to exercise her special right to have that particular offensive item removed from her highness' sight.

And you agree with that? I'm so sick of people feeling "insulted", "disrespected" over trifling matters and assuming that everyone else in the room should just shelve their own preferences in order to see that they get to feel as special as they think they are. It goes way beyond just one lunatic Korean nationalist. There are people who feel "insulted" by Christmas these days ffs. Since when did it become expected that we could all go through life being treated like some sort of dignitary - even when we go out to buy a comic book. Its a sickening disease of ego run amok and its already spread to most of the civilized world.

Based on many posts above, it's quite obvious that she doesn't have the "solid knowledge" as many Koreans who are protesting the said issue in other countries. I see no problem of "banning" the flag within Korea based on their own distorted view of history but I suggest they don't bring their "baggage" to other countries.

It seems like Koreans were doing something very similar in New York earlier this year. That suggests the store encounter in France was not an isolated incident. Korean Americans run in N. All runners wore uniforms with the slogan, "Ban War Criminal Flag in all Olympic Games," written to convey the message that what they call an "Asian Nazi banner" should never be used again. Sorry to cut in. Sumburst image actually reminds us of the prewar and wartime era. But the image motif adopted by artists nowadays does not glorify the war but in most cases caricatures the pathos of those times which can be projected onto the present day by analogy.

So the image together with other kitsch like Mishima Yukio in fundoshi holding a Japanese sword, a figure of beckoning cat in white porcelain, teeth braces seen between grinning lips or a steam locomotive puffing under magenta-colored cherry blossoms, though of bad taste, was appreciated as component of J-pop culture, not glamorization of the past.

Even Koreans appreciate it and recognize that the Rising Sun symbolizes Japan and the rays emanating from it don't seem to bother them particularly. You being short sighted in your thinking; ever consider that her grandmother and grandfather suffered under Japanese aggressions during the war? Perhaps her grandmother was a "comfort women" maybe her grandfather was tortured?

End of the day people, we have no right to condemn this girl as stupid, or brain-washed or any of the other hateful assumptions you have been making. Hold your fire until she has been interviewed, or you have met her yourself and vent your xenophobic urges somewhere else.

Sorry, the URL is not shown correctly. Pls put an underscore between current and ex. Also between yokoo and exhibition. Virtuoso, for the French there is no incident. I have no problem at researching, the French web ignores the story, and why not? I don't doubt that instead of putting them in lunatic asylums, the South-Koreans let their loonies be full time national activists. In any place with lots of crowd passing in major Korean cities, they are there year-round, them and the cult people. Their presence on internet is similar.

That's like Japan's black trucks, Brain dead. That's not news, that's the landscape. As other said, it is the current flag of the non-Imperial Japanese navy currently, but for domestic use only as you know J-army doesn't go much overseas, and when they do it's as UN mission and they have another flag. You may think they should change it. I do, if you ask me. But that's Japan's problem and surely that's very low on the list of priorities. Outside the country, I don't think the flag is seen out of the context of depicting historic time by sane people and of being burnt publicly by protesters by insane activists that just lower the level of debate by doing it.

It's the poster of that movie about Yasukuni by a Chinese director, but that I cannot guess what it is, I am an ignorant tourist that doesn't read Korean. OK, it's obvious without reading, but I'm really not smart and of bad faith. I will ask the flag to be removed as my terribly shocked. You think the Korean bookstore will answer to my delirium in English? And why don't South-Korean busy-bodies start by asking the ban the infamous taegukgi flag, you know the one used during the Jeju slaughters?

The Japan goverment asked Korea goverment to show the concrete number of conscripted workers and soldiers, dead and injured and how much unpaid wages were. They asked to "show the evidences and they would pay". Korea agreed and investigated them. What I want to clarify here is that Korea didn't claim the compensation for the war time prostitutes. It's because there was no abducted prostitute.

Nobody said at the time in Korea, those prostitutes were abducted. Everyone knew there were many women who were so poor that they sold themselves to live and the Japan army didn't have to abduct Korean women. There were many Korean volunteers for Japan army at the time. Therefore Koreans didn't claim it at that time. It's the Korea goverment's problem if they did not disclose the comfort women issue at the time. Regardless of your opinion, it is undeniable that the Japanese Sunburst ensign is the most stunning and beautiful design ever to grace a banner.

I love the expat contingency so readily siding with a fascist symbol with zero understanding on context or history. The Nazi's also claimed historical lineage for the swatika and the confederate flag is met with indignation in racist US South even to this day. Get a clue people and learn to exercise some decency. Wouldn't it be more sensitive and polite for Japanese map makers to stop using that inverted swaztika symbol for temples in Japan, and substitute a new cleansed symbol instead, like perhaps, a smiley face?

Cos You can believe what you want, but it seems Koreans also made a similar protest in Italy last month. Many people seem puzzled by the apparent anti-Japan sentiments in Korea, saying why can't they get over the Japanese occupation which was over 70 years ago. But less seem to be aware that Japan has been invading Korea for hundreds of years, and there are historical records that go back to the s regarding this issue. Not saying it's justified, but I see too many people demonising an entire nation without understanding the historical context.

As I see it, here's the main difference; many Koreans hate Japanese because of what they did; most Japanese who hate Koreans are simply racist. There are many countries that have been invaded for centuries, but they don't behave like Koreans. In addition, China has invaded Korea countless times. Do not also forget that China is the main reason of the division of Korean peninsula. Why don't Koreans critisize China and ask for apology and compensation? Is that because Korea, which was a tributary state of China for years, regards China as their master?

Anyway, crying over and exagerating something that happened long time ago is pathetic. And let's not change the subject which is about a Korean student living in France forcing a French department store to remove the Japanese naval ensign, something that has nothing to do with Korea as Korea was not in war with Japan , due to her ignorance and brainwash that she received from her country's media.

This post shows what is troublesome here: Yes they did occupy the country 70 years ago, too. But we are in 21st century now, and none of the Japanese who I personally know today ever invaded Korea or any other country. And why did Koreans start this negative campeign against the rising sun flag so recently? Don't you find this odd? Nobody in their right mind accuses the current generation of Japanese citizens of the wrongdoings of their forefathers.

However it's the denials of past crimes that riles up their 2 closest neighbours. It's not just the minority nutjobs in black vans, but the current Japanese prime minister who openly denies many of their past war crimes. You think this is a biased view? Then I would refer you to the NY Times editorial "Another attempt to deny Japan's history" published earlier this year. Some supposedly good minds are going to waste.

They are stuck in a false past breading an internal mental cancer that is only going to hurt them more than anyone else, eating them from the inside. It's sad when your mind is your enemy. Free your mind to do more to fly like the birds to achieve more. Sad to always rewind the same sad music, you never get the time to listen to something new,to experience the joy that the new sound can bring.

Lets's enjoy the now! Free your minds from the mental cancer, no one can do it for you. I'll disagree somewhat and argue that Koreans, unable to find anything in the present about Japan to complain about, complain about World War II without even acknowledging they were part of Japan at the time. And if anything, their real legitimate grievance is their annexation by Japan in but they don't seem to mention it as much.

Japanese Korea-bashers complain about Korea's present actions, be it the continued illegal occupation of Takeshima, the present and ever increasing special rights of Zainichi, or their never-ending whining about the past. If Koreans hate the actual individuals who were alive during the occupation then yes.

If Koreans hate today's Japanese who had nothing to do with it, then it's completely racist. Those people are simply using their version of history as an excuse to justify their racism. My Father while he was alive felt that it is time to move on.

I believe it is time to move on. The Koreans need to move on. The Koreans need to stop acting like babies. What happened in the past cannot be changed. Tech Innovate Gadget Mission: Chat with us in Facebook Messenger. Find out what's happening in the world as it unfolds. These thoughts have not been generated by an algorithm or crowdsourced on Twitter.

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