Building Wealth Through Peer-to-Peer Lending

Changes in interest rates can also affect the value of the loan if you try selling it early. Hi Kyle, Starting with just four peer loans is risky because it leaves you very exposed to each. I would save up until you can invest in at least 20 peer loans and then only invest in good credit categories. Reinvest proceeds and keep adding to your account until you are up to at least loans, then you can start investing in riskier categories for higher returns. Make sure it is in an IRA account so you do not get taxed on interest.

How do you invest in p2p inside your IRA? Is this a solo IRA? Hi Karen, to invest in peer lending with an IRA you have to be on a website that has p2p investing. The upside is that they are offering cash back on new IRA accounts. Any funds in your IRA can be transferred to another IRA later if you decide you want to move some money from p2p investing to another type of investment. You can also set up a regular taxable account with Lending Club with money that can be withdrawn and used whenever. I find the information on your site very informative. I heard about P2P loans probably a couple of years back and really wanted to invest in this type of venture.

Any help you can offer will be much appreciated. This is where you invest in peer loans you buy from other investors instead of directly funding the loans on Lending Club.

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The advantage with a Foliofn account is that you can invest in loans with less time until payoff and can even get a better return than the original investor. Thank you so much for this information and responding in a timely manner. Do you know if Prosper offers the same option? I will look into doing the Foliofn account, as I am looking to get started right away. Do you have any strategies I could utilize in purchasing notes? Have you ever purchased notes before? I appreciate any help you can give to a newcomer.

Investing in older p2p loans is a lot like investing in new loans. Set the criteria on which you want to invest; time horizon, loan categories and so forth. Check out this post on the best lending club investing strategies for different types of investors. Stick with shorter-term loans in safer categories that have not missed a payment before going into riskier peer loan investing.

Thank you for that interview! So say you are debt free and I give you 10k. How are you going to invest it! Congrats on getting to debt free Dustin. How you invest depends on your age and retirement goals. I put together a series of articles on how your investments change as you age at http: Set your p2p account to automatically invest in new loans each month and let it go on its own. Lending Club is offering a cash bonus for new retirement accounts now. We will see how things go when I hit that 3 year mark.

A few of my strategies that seem to work for me as follows: I never issue a note that has more than 36 months to mature. I only issue notes for debt consolidation. I cherry-pick all of my notes. They must have a mortgage, no renters. They must have at least 3 years with their current employer.

I have a few other strategies, but those are my main focus points. Excellent criteria for p2p investing Adam. Thanks for the comment. Should I only invest out of an IRA account? What are your thoughts on using money from checking or savings account? Hi Joe, You can put money in your p2p investing account with money from anywhere; checking, savings or another IRA account.

This will make the income you receive from investing in loans tax-free until much later. You mentioned that you could invest funds from any kind of account checking, savings, or another IRA account. Does this include funds coming out of an ABLE Savings Account for those with disabilities without it jeopardizing their disability benefits as long as their annual contributions and total income caps are within limits?

Yvette, I think you might have misunderstood. As far as I know Lending Club only receives money for investing through checking or wire transfer. Not sure of all the rules around p2p investing for those on benefits.

I use Lending Club. I constantly use Folio investing trading format for lending club. I think it is especially useful to sell off bad debt. I also constantly have my notes for sale. This tool can also be very beneficial if you ever need to liquidate the account. I like this form of investing because of the cash flow. You can create a second income. A safety net, a way to eventually retire early, supplemental income, or what ever you want it to be. I have been very happy. Some great ideas Derik. Are there any criteria you use for deciding when to sell late p2p loans?

Prosper openly tells borrowers that after onoy days they charge off any loans in default. Since they bare no risk when a borrower stops paying, they have little to gain by aggressively going after a borrower in default. This single aspect of their program makes it too risky for many lenders and I now included myself in that group. One bad loan and you will be in the red with Prosper. Prosper and Lending Club outsource their loan collections and do have a vested interest in seeing bad loans collected. Investors leave if default rates rise so the peer lending platforms do want to see late loans collected.

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You will always have bad loans, even in a portfolio of traditional corporate debt. In peer to peer lending investing, as with any investment, you need to diversify across different risk categories and other criteria. Invest across at least loans though and each loan is only half a percent of your investment. Hope this page is still active! Great feedback and advice. But I was wanting to invest more to ideally get higher return and quicker payouts. Would that be a good strategy starting out, or should I mix up the loan amounts and have smaller loan amounts, so that I can have more loans invested in?

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I would stick with the lower amount per loan until you have enough to invest in at least loans. Okay, Thanks for clarifying that for me, I have a better understanding now of how the interest rates work, and that is what I initially thought to do. More loans will be better starting out, than confining to fewer loans- which could leave me vulnerable to defaults. Are there any options for me to invest?

Hi Sidney, I would go with Lending Club.

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They do not have the loan growth needed for investors and I like the Lending Club platform better. Thanks Montana, How much you invest really depends on your total portfolio in stocks, bonds and other investments. Help me understand the short and long terms benefits of this? Canyou actually make revenue on an annual basis? I like p2p investing for two reasons, diversification and the returns. Joseph, if you are reinvesting every cent you make off of P2P then when do you spend the passive income.

Is this strictly to build up for when you retire or to have money each month to spend? I treat my p2p account like any other investing account, for those long-term gains. It can be a source of passive income if you withdraw the earnings. I hate seeing the money in my saving account depreciate every month as the interest in a money market is pathetic. I prefer p2p investing over eREITs but there are so good benefits to both. All the Rest Passive Income Myth: Post may contain affiliate links. An interview with Jeff Clements about p2p investing shows you the criteria to make stable and strong returns in p2p loans.

Glad to help as long as all the good loans do not disappear. How did you hear about p2p investing? What has been your biggest mistake as a p2p investor? Obviously, the higher the risk, the better the interest. What has been your biggest surprise with p2p investing? Since you began P2P investing, what have your returns looked like? My P2P Investing Account. Making Your Money Grow.

Comments robert h says: November 17, at 5: April 9, at 1: Not everyone can get approved by a bank. That is kind of the point of P2P lending. August 30, at 9: Joseph Hogue, CFA says: August 30, at 4: August 13, at 8: August 13, at August 19, at 5: August 19, at 6: May 16, at May 18, at July 10, at 1: Hi Grant, Would you mind sharing with me what some of those requirements are? July 12, at 9: July 13, at 7: January 10, at 5: January 11, at 5: February 13, at 4: February 14, at 8: August 1, at 7: August 2, at 8: January 21, at 6: Hi Kyle, I find the information on your site very informative.

January 21, at 7: January 24, at 1: February 27, at February 28, at 7: March 19, at Fantastic article, many great points. March 20, at 9: March 31, at What do you think? I currently live in a state that does not allow P2P lending. Why do some states prohibit the practice? Are there any opportunities to get that changed? Typically, states do not outlaw the practice directly. However, their regulations are geared toward more traditional ways of lending i. Meeting 50 flavors of qualification is expensive and time-consuming; also, even if not explicitly stated, not every State is favorable to the idea of P2P lending.

The fastest way to uniform availability is for the companies to go public. Watch for Lending Club to go this way, now that they are public. This idea was disclosed in their prospectus. Great to hear from you. And wow some impressive returns with Prosper. Very interesting and well written. I wish I could invest but I am in Texas. The states that do not allow it are somewhat curious.

Texas prides itself on being less regulated and AZ is known as a more libertarian type state. I was prepared to write off some of my investments in the lower rated notes in the hopes of earning a higher return. How are Prosper returns taxed? If they are taxed at ordinary income rates, that has a big impact on your rates when compared to long-term capital gains rates on stock-based investments.

It is interest income so it would be taxed as ordinary income which is one of the drawbacks. Unfortunately they do not get the preferential treatment that dividends and long-term capital gains have. Taxed at regular income rates? That really takes a lot of the return for those in the higher tax brackets. How does the ROI work out in comparison to normal investments after taxes? This sort of income is taxed ordinary income, correct, vs. Might be worth investing in an IRA. Can you confirm though that funding the notes is not counted as a distribution from the IRA? I understand that as more investors start getting into P2P, the ratio of investors-to-borrowers is growing more unfavorable for investors i.

Have you experienced issues with this? How much of a problem have you found it to be, in your experience? How difficult is it to liquefy funds in the event you wish to pull some dollars out, for whatever reason? Any insights to share on that? There is a way to sell the notes on a secondary market.

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You can actually get a slight premium for notes performing well if you want to liquify. One of the main bloggers on p2p did a test and was able to do it in a week. Sam- This post has been great—a lot of insights particularly through the comment section. I have admittedly never done P2P lending and will likely not start. First, I had no idea gains are taxed as earned income. I work at a BB and already am getting crushed with taxes. I know you were in the same boat and likely empathize!

For this reason, normalizing P2P returns to brokerage account capital gains with respect to taxes gives rise to way too much P2P risk for my liking. Second, there seems to be significant prepayment risk Jeremy mentioned This is actually a real risk and not a merit for securitized notes, Jeremy. Prepayment cuts into my return for the note tranche. Also if I calc the IRR myself to include the time the initial deposit was sitting in cash it is around 7 percent. Good way to diversify a bit, too.

I wonder what would happen if they went bankrupt. I suppose your money would be lost. But things seem to be going very well right now, those rates of returns are great. Is there a minimum you can invest? Does the limitation you spoke of in order to invest in Prosper. I might try it out with a small amount to see what happens. The hard part is, you have to be willing to hold on to your investment when the return goes negative during the stock market dips.

This is a good summary provided by BE Pennypacker. Most people should be thrilled to achieve performance equal to it. The hardest part is not selling off during the downturns which happens to be when job loss is higher, wage growth is stagnant, home prices are falling, etc. For any funds that may need to be tapped during the next years, this obviously is not the way to go. If you had stopped after the first sentence, it would have seemed like an intelligent comment. Bull market will be far higher, bear market will be far lower.

The downside is that the stock market is volatile, and we can never be sure if current average returns will be reflective of future average returns. Maybe eventually I will. I do some stock picking on occasion, but honestly ETFs are a great way to go. Anyone can make money in a bull market. Take the last 6 years, for example. This is a very passive investment, and people that made good picks probably did much better. You might be able to do even better without doing much research or thinking. Take the Russell index e. That being said, in recent years it has been similar, and nobody knows the future.

Worth consideration, but this P2P lending stuff seems cool too, and probably much less volatile. I have been using Lending Club since I went with loans of all types but mostly higher yielding. Limited upside but big downside risk. If economy gets slammed I could lose everything but if economy takes off and no more defaults then returns stay the same.

Over the same time period my stocks have kicked ass over LC. The few caveats you should probably mention is how scarce D-E rated loans are at Prosper. Just going to Prosper. Second, interest rates to borrowers have been steadily dropping for the past year. Nice to see solid returns with enough diversification. I spend probably an hour a month maybe 15 minutes a week just checking in. I have have a few thousand invested, so that is still a viable option for me. I use this account to diversify our retirement funds to spread out the risks.

I retired over 20 years ago. Primarily I invest in B, C, and D loans, although since the defaults are growing, maybe A, B, and C loans would return similar results with fewer defaults. Prosper is a young, growing company and as a result there are some glitches with their computer and accounting programs on occasion. However, by far, my favorite form of investing is buying Dividend Paying Stocks and holding them forever. So much fun to watch those dividends roll in on a monthly basis.

Little fuss or hassle. Over the short time I have been with Prosper I have noticed a gradual reduction of high quality loans in the C-E categories. For those who are content with A,B, and C loans, Prosper is a good bet. I suspect that corporate clients skim the cream way before the rest of us are left with slim pickings. Much better when I started in He is up-to-date on all of the recent changes and developments on P2P Lending.

LC is a much larger marketplace backed by Google, and now publicly traded. I am getting I was only getting 0. And, even after taxes, I still have more money coming in with this than I did with my savings account. This P2P is tough. And mind you, rest of your money is still blocked for 3 years. I have been using Prosper for years but at a smaller scale. I did setup my auto invest criteria and occassionally see the email that says thank you for your auto investment.