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Jul 31, Tim rated it liked it. Now, I'm not going to say that this series is as ground-breaking as Asimov's puhlease , but I do highly recommend that all the haters go back and read some of the originals and reassess how they feel about these authors matching or not matching Asimov's "voice. For some reason, just couldn't connect with the characters.

Sword of Chaos (Darkover Series) by Marion Zimmer Bradley

Maybe it was because there were too many interesting characters? I was just left with the feeling that I had watched something very interesting and was hoping for more? Sep 30, Rob Markley rated it liked it Shelves: I really had high hopes of what Bear could bring to Asimov. I like Bear the more but I regret that I feel instead of lifting Foundation Bear was dragged down from his lofty and brilliant science based fiction. Loved the way the book is integrated to the ones that came before in the series. Just like the others in this series, amazing how the multiple story lines merge together.

Aug 12, Joshua Stager rated it liked it. Jun 05, Elisabeth added it. Nov 19, Christopher Page rated it liked it. This is the second Foundation based book I read. After this I read the original Foundation trilogy. In a way I am glad I read this first because it helped built up the story of Hari Seldon, and this book ends in the perfect place for the original Foundation trilogy to pick up. In my opinion you can skip Foundation's Triumph, and probably Foundation's Fear as well as neither are that great. Of the second Foundation trilogy this volume was by far the best, I found the story interesting and it kept This is the second Foundation based book I read.

Of the second Foundation trilogy this volume was by far the best, I found the story interesting and it kept me wanting to read a little further. Compared with the novel that came before in this series , this one was phenomenal! The Second Foundation Trilogy is clearly a secondary book in a trilogy.

It advances the story arc and sets up the crisis to be resolved in the third novel, without actually answering many questions itself. This novel was a faster read than Foundation's Fear Second Foundation Trilogy, 1 , and seemed to dovetail very nicely with the initial vignette in Foundation. I was thrilled to see Dors back Compared with the novel that came before in this series , this one was phenomenal! My reading notes follow: Raych is mentioned right at the start of this novel. Unlike the previous novel , he is remembered to exist!

The worm holes, a rare science accuracy in a world of space fiction often called science fiction of the previous novel has just been killed off in order to return to Asimov's hyper drive ships. To those reviewers that found worm holes anti-cannon and unpalatable when reading the previous novel , this point in this novel must have been a wonder to behold. Are they jumping for joy? About the only part of that currently related to science is the assertion that Sodium chloride is table salt.

Someone actually used "widdershins" in their manuscript! And honestly, what does it matter that those SIMs have quarreled? How did Klia et al discover that they were working for robots? I feel as if I missed a scene. At last telling, they just knew that they were working for mysterious individuals. They know this now? Biggest secret in the universe and it seems that everyone knows it. Since Plussix is the one talking "Plussix and me" makes no sense. Or is that what the next book is for? So far, I think Greg Bear is my favorite author out of the entire Foundation series.

Gregory Benford was definitely a step in the right direction with his characterization skills, but Bear takes that same skill and adds a prevailing plot that keeps the story moving along. It still gets bogged down with a lot of details, but overall, I think he brings the best combination of talents to bear with this novel.

This novel is a direct continuation, thematically, to Foundation's Fear the story's chrono So far, I think Greg Bear is my favorite author out of the entire Foundation series. This novel is a direct continuation, thematically, to Foundation's Fear the story's chronology takes place a couple of decades after the events in that novel , and focuses more on how the robots play into the entire series.

It helps alleviate some of the surprise I felt with the preceding novel, since I felt like the robots were over-represented, when Asimov had made them a rather understated element of the series, despite them being the reason the Foundation existed at all. But this trilogy appears to be an examination of the robots and their role in those events, which makes the series feel a little more significant. I still have trouble accepting the idea that the events of over 20, years of history were all part of a grand plan set in place so long ago.

It's not a criticism of the books or the series; I'm just not comfortable with the idea that individuals aren't all that important in the grand scheme of things. Life already reminds us that our existence is fleeting, and that we may not be as significant as we think we are; I don't want my fiction having to remind me of that fact, as well. I read to escape, not to be reminded of my ultimate futility. One aspect of the book that I initially disliked was the rehashing of the trial that began this series some 70 years ago.

At first, I thought it was a way to pad out the book, but as the trial continued, I realized that we were seeing more of what was going on behind that trial. Asimov's version moved quickly and clinically, focusing more on the elements of psychohistory than the people behind it; Bear delved into the people behind the trial, focusing on Seldon, Dornick, and other characters who weren't even mentioned in that initial story.

It cemented the trial and made it more real, and I realized that this "rehash" was more necessary than I first realized. I find it odd to consider that the book's theme reinforces the idea of the futility of an individual in the history of the world, while the focus of the story itself is on the individuals. I'm not sure if it's meant to be reassuring, or if it's just irony, but either way it made the book more readable for me. With this book complete, I have one last volume to read to be done with Foundation for good save for the Robot series, which is still up in the air with me.

I don't see it as a series that I would want to read again in the future, but I'm glad that I've made it this far. It felt like one of those series that I needed to read, and I'm glad to say that I have. Leader of the Giskardian robots. Also known as Raven becuase of his forecast of the fall of the Empire. Chief commissioner of Public Safety.

Granddaughter of Hari Seldon. Wife of Stettin Palver. Hari's wife while he was first minister. Died protecting him from an assassination attempt. Leader of th Characters: Leader of the Calvinian robots on Trantor. Add a description of this character. A mentalic, his power is making people like him. Emperor of the empire. Mentalic recruited by Wanda but refused instead went to work for Farad Sinter.

Undercover as an importer. Former emporor, had Demerzel a. Daneel as first minister. Led Cleon into exile. Alias of Daneel Olivaw. Demerzel was first minister to Cleon. To become the fifty-first mathist to join the foundation project. Brought to trial with Hari Seldon. Dahliite mentalic with strong powers of persuasion. Captian of three ships including Flower of Evil. The ship that searched for Lodovik Trema. Based on Joan of Arc. Built Eos station with Daneel. Trusted councilor of Linge Chen. Crewwoman on the flower of evil. Linge Chen's personal secretary.

More than an expert on hyperdrives. Father of Klia Major Perl Namm: Special investigations assigned to the Dahlite sector. He took Vara Liso on her sweeps to find mentalics and later robots. Hired for Gaal Doornick.

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Prospective member of the encyclopedia project. Commander in palace security. Emperor after Cleon and before Klayus. Butcher of 50 billions people. Brought to Trantor so that he could be interviewed by Hari Seldon. Apr 08, John Loyd rated it really liked it. Foundation and Chaos pages by Greg Bear. Much later Asimov connected the Foundation universe with his robot universe. In the second of those books Bear is at a point where Linge Chen, chief commissioner of public safety, has brought charges of Foundation and Chaos pages by Greg Bear.

In the second of those books Bear is at a point where Linge Chen, chief commissioner of public safety, has brought charges of treason against Hari Seldon. Hari is awaiting trial. Meanwhile Farad Sinter with the help of Vara Liso is trying to first locate other mentalics, and later on robots. Robots have formed two factions. Giskardian robots that have developed a zeroth law of robotics which is to guard humanity as whole and the Calvinians, named for Susan Calvin, who stick to the more rigid three laws.

A beautiful and terrifying book, told with such force as it documents a literal Hurricane or, the preparations for one, Hurricane Katrina through the eyes of its year-old, pregnant narrator, Esch. Her father is the one who drinks: The documentation of the breakdown of a marriage, marred by constant wine drinking, infidelities, lying, and seeping emotional neglect of the children who live at the edges of the narrative often is heartbreaking and confusing.

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Apparently, she was just bad at framing jokes herself--but appreciated them from others. Feb 10, Skyler rated it liked it Shelves: Darkover was one of my favourite series back when. I liked its feminist overtones. Some of the short stories were written by Bradley, and were good. Some of the other shorts were not as good, others fit well into the Darkover universe.

Aug 04, Cris rated it really liked it Shelves: Tem algumas historias muito boas, e outras, nem tanto. Segue algumas que eu gostei. A Gift of Love: Tem mais o tom de uma lenda.

E depois que descobre que o pacto foi feito com Avarra, a deusa da morte. A Legend of The Hellers: Bem interessante o enfoque. A Sword of Chaos: The Lesson of The Inn: Jul 01, dogpossum rated it liked it Shelves: The second of twelve 'official' anthology of Darkovan stories, Sword Of Chaos is edited by MZB, features a couple of her stories, but is for the most part a collection of fanfic.

Interestingly, many of the authors in this collection went on to become Names in SF eg Susan Shwartz , though the writing is a bit dodgy in some of the stories. Though they are not 'official' stories of Darkover, many of these short stories are now accepted as canon, it's worth picking up these anthologies.

Many storie The second of twelve 'official' anthology of Darkovan stories, Sword Of Chaos is edited by MZB, features a couple of her stories, but is for the most part a collection of fanfic. Many stories explore minor characters in the other books eg the lovely story about Hilary Castimir in 'The Lesson Of The Inn' in Sword of Chaos , others introduce new characters, explore popular themes particularly the Renunciates and Towers or flesh out myths or references in the books.

These little stories gain importance in the Darkovan canon because the original collection of books weren't written in chronological order, and some of the main stories have even been re-written by MZB. MZB herself commented that she doesn't much care for internal consistency and chronological logic, pointing out that inconsistencies can be written up as individual characters' own misremembering or different interpretations of events.

So the Darkover series itself is quite accommodating of fanfic, and these collections turn out to be more interesting and useful than expected. The importance of fanfic in the early stages of new authors' careers is quite clear in the Darkover world, and I'm wondering if these sorts of anthologies are now a thing of the past. I can't really imagine publishers today taking such risky punts on unknown authors in collections edited and managed by the authors of successful feminist SciFant series.

MZB herself eventually restricted writing in the Darkovan world to suit her publishers' requirements, and there were only twelve published collections. NB There's an interesting article of the history of these Darkova anthologies and the Friends of Darkover fan group which discusses MZB's relationship to fan writing in the Darkover universe. Apr 21, Lisa Harmonybites rated it liked it Shelves: Marion Zimmer Bradley is famous for her Avalon books, but I'm a fan of her Darkover stories, set in an original world and a blend of science fiction and fantasy.

I was impressed on reread of the first Darkover short story anthology, The Keeper's Price --basically a collection of "fan fiction" by other authors based on MZB's world.

Enough I ranked it just below five stars, and was tempted to give it full marks. Not that I would argue it's deathless literature, but as a Darkover fan I loved it, and Marion Zimmer Bradley is famous for her Avalon books, but I'm a fan of her Darkover stories, set in an original world and a blend of science fiction and fantasy. Not that I would argue it's deathless literature, but as a Darkover fan I loved it, and was surprised how memorable the various stories were even decades after I first read it--there were some I remembered just from the title, and no story I didn't completely enjoy.

This second collection, though still enjoyable, didn't impress me as much. The first seemed mostly taken from a contest, and perhaps that pushed the quality up. So many in the contents page seem the usual suspects. Elizabeth Waters' contribution "Rebirth" was a sequel to the story just before, "Escape," by Leslie Williams. Which btw I'd consider the strongest, certainly most memorable story in the collection; short and chilling.

But on the whole I'd say this collection had less high points, and quite a few I'd consider rather weak--at least compared to the last volume. I'd still recommend this to a Darkover fan, but with less enthusiasm than the first anthology. Jun 08, Christopher Sutch rated it really liked it. Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover novels are became so rich and densely imagined that they opened up a wide space for Bradley and others to think through various issues feminism, sexuality, class, the role of violence and weapons in society and, incidentally, to create some of the best and most innovative science fiction of the s and early s.

This second collection of stories by mostly amateur authors continued to fulfill that potential for social dialogue about important issues, thou Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover novels are became so rich and densely imagined that they opened up a wide space for Bradley and others to think through various issues feminism, sexuality, class, the role of violence and weapons in society and, incidentally, to create some of the best and most innovative science fiction of the s and early s.

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Partly this slight let down is because some of the authors merely extend stories they published in that foundational anthology Susan Schwarz and Bradley herself ; this makes for a less-than-exciting and -original reading experience. Also, though, some of the writers' inexperience in their craft shows through more than it did in the earlier book some of the stories' pacing is erratic, and there is far too much exposition in many of the works. However, there are a lot of works in this book that are worth reading, including Bradley channeling Michael Moorcock in the title story, and in the several stories toward the end of the volume that shed new light on characters and situations Bradley first created in her novels: It is fascinating to look back on the beginnings of a true community of like-minded individuals who took advantage of a publishing opportunity to open up a space within American science fiction for social dialogue on so many issues, thereby helping to change the genre from mere entertainment to something a bit more weighty.

I love the revisit to the beginning, four generations after Darkover Landfall. With neighboring establishments warring against one another, their desire for leaders strong in laran has become a requirement. What about the faithful and dutiful wife who is brushed aside and forced to nurse the girl who may deliver the son her husband demands? It is too short, but it is great. Set in one of my favorite times, The Clingfire Trilogy. A fantastic short story of the broken down Mhari Delleray agreeing to pay the cost to get revenge on the bandit who is responsible for the annihilation of her family at Sain Scarp, with the powerful sword which is eternally thirsting for blood.

While on the road Father Piedro travels through the deadly fires and through the equally deadly snows in Darkover, all the while learning what brother , sister , wife , and husband means to him, a cristoforo. Hilary Cycle 3 After feeling crushed at her failed attempt to be the next Keeper of Arilinn, Hilary travels home, and is thrown into situations that will break her of the intensely strict behavior she has learned over the years while in training to be a Keeper under Leonie of Arilinn.

Nov 14, Tiffany rated it really liked it. I hadn't tried this Darkover Anthology yet. Ever since Marion Zimmer Bradley died, I'm not sure if there have been new anthologies. This is an older edition of her short story collections. Got it through Paperbackbookswap. Great way to get some hard to find books. So, this collection has some good stories of Darkover. Marion Zimmer Bradley grouped the stories by Darkover by time period or by a category relating to Darkover. If you haven't had a chance to read this book and love Darkover, I'd I hadn't tried this Darkover Anthology yet.

If you haven't had a chance to read this book and love Darkover, I'd recommend it. Great way to enjoy some quick reads if you want a getaway into a book without being absorbed by a whole novel. Apr 29, Serena rated it liked it. So many short stories, it's wonderful to see that once there was something like "fan-fiction" that a author like Marion Zimmer Bradley approved of and had published in many collections. Very few do that now.

You will not find more than a half dozen Darkover fan-fiction now on the internet. It's sad, and too bad.