Disgraced? The Cop at the Centre of Melbournes Gangland Wars

But what Iddles did not tell the public was that Carl Williams had, by , hinted he could help solve the Mladenich murder. This meant Williams potentially implicating a close associate, a feared underworld criminal called Rocco Arico. They were pretty good mates at, ah, one stage for about five y-, four to five years.

Er, they used to venture out together and do a lot of things together. Ron Iddles declined to speak to Four Corners about the Mladenich case or his suspect, Rocco Arico, because it is an ongoing inquiry. It's a development that put Williams in grave danger. It's obvious, that, you know, not only Rocky - it's a lot of other people too that would assume if Carl's talking about Dale he'd be talking about them.

By April , Williams was in a maximum security compound in Barwon Prison with two cellmates, both notorious underworld figures. But police and prison authorities had overlooked some crucial details: The second cellmate, who can't be named for legal reasons, was a close associate - and in phone contact - with none other than Rocco Arico.

Disgraced?: The Cop at the Centre of Melbourne’s Gangland Wars

You're giving me some information now which I've never heard of before and that is that Rocky Arico was ringing in that cell. If I had have known that, of course I would have been concerned. I couldn't believe it. I thought, "How could this be allowed to happen? Ten minutes after Johnson murdered Williams, the second cellmate, who was Rocco Arico's friend, phoned Arico with the news. It would take 27 minutes before the prison guards responded to the murder.

Police said Carl Williams was bashed by a fellow prisoner at I don't want to speculate or comment about that. As far as we were aware, there was nothing that was, ah, giving us concern. It would be many more hours before Carl's father, George, was told what had happened. I think I rang the prison on four or five, six I can't recall how many times.

They said, "No, everything's alright. W- we'll talk to you later.

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And I just couldn't What actually happened, as I say, is really, really clear but how it was able to happen and why it happened will be key questions that we need to answer. I'm hoping it's just really a bad poor decision-making process and it wasn't something more sinister. But you wonder how many of these bad decisions, um, can occur in a particular, ah, investigation. I can't say "Yes, I would forgive him" but it would've been nice had he actually had the opportunity to give his evidence, the same as dad.

They both didn't get their opportunity. The police will always be, um, in my eyes guilty. They have to be held accountable. Their duty of care failed. It was that my mum was forced to watch my dad get murdered or vice versa. I'd hate to even think what they were going through and that's always gone through my mind many, many a time and I've cried many a tear over it. Williams' death has prompted a still ongoing inquiry about whether it was, as police suspect, Rocco Arico who gave the order to have Williams killed. Paul Dale was not involved with Williams' death.

But outgoing police chief commissioner Ken Lay recently told a still unresolved coronial inquest that police still believe Paul Dale is responsible for the murder of Terrence Hodson. Dale denies this and the Counsel Assisting the Coroner says there is not enough evidence to say just who killed the Hodsons. Former chief commissioner Simon Overland, who oversaw the Hodson and Williams murder probes, declined to comment to Four Corners, as did his predecessor Christine Nixon and his replacement Ken Lay. But recently there's been another major development.

Victoria's anti-corruption body has launched an inquiry into the Force's alleged mismanagement of a third gangland figure who was helping police on the Hodson case. Tonight, Ron Iddles tells Four Corners he refused an order from Simon Overland to take a statement from this figure, because doing so could have exposed them to underworld reprisals - or even death. I had a conversation with that witness and said, "If I take this statement, these are the likely implications. So sometimes I think the priorities are wrong. Yes, we all want to have a successful outcome in relation to court cases, but I don't think we do it at the expense of a witness', ah, life.

Ron Iddles now heads Victoria's Police Union and he, along with Bezzina and Gregor, say reforms are needed to better protect witnesses and informers, including those who don't want to join the witness protection program. If someone doesn't sign up, we need to look at how are we going to look after that witness that hasn't totally signed up to go. And it may be, still could be a relocation; could be security cameras. Job's been done, we've got the conviction, let's move on. It is very delicate. It is volatile in running police informers and looking after witnesses.

We do need outside organisations looking at us and saying, "Well, right. You're not doing that properly. Today Paul Dale lives in regional Victoria, near the small town where he grew up. He views himself as one of the greatest victims of this still unresolved ordeal. I didn't do it.

I'm here to tell people I didn't do it. I have written my book for people to read so that they can read what happened to me and the reasons, or what I can only suggest are the reasons, that those things happened to me. A few points to make in conclusion: The Victorian Police issued a statement to the program, acknowledging the need for improvement in the handling of police informants; that a review had been set up and a number of recommendations implemented.

Their full statement is available on the website. It's a Jungle Out There: Organised crime and public sector corruption: A crime scripts analysis of tactical displacement risks Australian Institute of Criminology. Victoria Police Crime Statistics Archive Independent broad-based anti-corruption commission Victoria. Who's Who in the Underworld Herald Sun. Plan by police to quiz Carl Williams about gangland murders was discovered by criminals The Age 2 February, Being an underworld snitch can be a deadly business The Age 2 February, Andrew Hodson took gun from parents' home after murders, court told The Age 15 August, Ganglands The Age Victorian police slammed Sydney Morning Herald 3 June, One man's stand against police corruption and Melbourne's gangland war Simon Illingworth Fontaine Press.

Melbourne Confidential 14 March, Video Player failed to load. Play Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume. True Detectives Posted Mon 2 Feb , Updated Wed 23 Aug , 9: There are also new revelations in the Williams case. Here's Nick McKenzie's report: He was calm, he was cool and he was collected in relation to it.

No role at all. No knowledge of it at all. What did you think? Because I'd just recently got married and had a baby. I won't hurt you. I just want to So I suppose the guilt lays upon me. Terry and Christine Hodson's decision to go it alone was just that. Pretty poor decision, given a man's life's on the line? Was Carl pretty happy that he had a policeman, as you say, "in his pocket"? He was, ah, seeking the location of Jason Moran. To work as a hit man? It should have also prompted a major investigation into the extent of the pair's relationship.

Not to my knowledge, no. Should it have been? And you had none of that? Who was investigating them? Murray Gregor was not only badly under-manned; he was also in the dark. Well, I took it to mean Hodson. I won't be too long. What should have happened? And Bezzina says, like Gregor, he too was under-manned.

Murray Gregor soon found himself looking over his shoulder. And certainly I subsequently did receive some threats. What sort of threats?

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Ah, phone calls in the night. Things of that nature. And what was said? I was trying to. Dale maintained his innocence and attacked the credibility of Carl Williams. I am totally innocent of the murder of Christine and Terence Hodson. What are we talking about? The underworld goings on. So Rocky knew Carl's secrets and Carl knew Rocky's secrets?

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As he read the morning paper, Carl Williams was felled from behind. Carl Williams has met a violent death in prison. You couldn't find out? Cou- and couldn't find out what was going on. Prison staff tried to revive him but he went into cardiac arrest Do you think Paul Dale may have gotten away with murder?

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Down the bottom there's a CrimeStoppers number to call. Perhaps you'd like to ring it and ask them for some goss Convicted murderer may be latest victim From: Lee Patrick Torney, 52, has not been seen or heard from since April last year and none of his bank accounts has been touched since. Mr Torney - who has criminal convictions for murder, assault and dishonesty and firearms offences - also has links to another man convicted of one of Melbourne's gangland killings.

That man cannot be named for legal reasons. Mr Torney has spent about 11 years in jail, where he is said to have befriended powerful criminals. He is said to have introduced two men who have since become prominent players in the gangland wars. Mr Torney's disappearance is being treated as a suspected murder. Due to his criminal connections, members of the Purana Taskforce investigating up to 15 of Melbourne's gangland killings have taken charge of the inquiry.

Mr Torney is well known to police. Police raided Mr Torney's Footscray home in after seizing an arsenal of weapons including explosives and rifles in South Melbourne. Police sources said Mr Torney was tight with one of the factions involved in the recent gangland war, as well as known armed robbers. Ironically, Mr Torney was living with his mother in Elphinstone, near Castlemaine, when he vanished. He is believed to have been unemployed.

Anyone with information about the disappearance of Lee Patrick Torney should call Crime Stoppers on Yeah was just going to add this mate, I suspect Sidney Grahams side have decided to back up after all, also word that Torney did a recent job with Rod Collins but not to sure how much of this is true yet.

Will keep you posted. SOS, you think Sids crew finally delivered its revenge??? What's Hentschel oops sorry, nobody knows who he is, right got coming to him? He was directly involved in the J Moran murder and one of the others, can't remember whihc now. Hi Mate I think it was Sids crew, but there is also word on the inside "mates young son just out from Barwon" that the Williams lot are going to knock the people close to Hentschel i: S Every one should start using a user name, I don't know who the fuck anyone is when everyone is Anonymous said lol.

Heard some quiet talk the other day, from some guys that run with boys from Sunshine and they are hearing that Williams crew are trying to stop Hentschel from testifying at trial His statement already fucks them all, esp Brincat, direct evidence as he was there to drive on a few hits, including dropping Williams when he whacked Mark Moran Carl would be trying anything to stop the cunt from sinking the ship Hell of a position to be in. If he says nothing he probably gets life himself.

If he talks he gets a much reduced sentence yet is forever looking over his shoulder I don't blame him for talking, it's not as if all those guys show any loyalty to each other. Infact they tend to blow each others brains out on a whim. A body has been discovered down a disused mineshaft in country Victoria and it's most likely this Torney fella. Dennis Tanner has a liking for disused mineshafts does he not? Read that Torney might have stiffed some blokes of some big cash Ah fuck it, the cunts dead anyway