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And many Christians are intentionally ignorant of lots of things, and when you try to bring them out of said ignorance they plug their ears all the more. In full disclosure, I have been gullible. However, when the truth became crystal clear for one and all, I realized my tendency to protect and defend the leadership simply because of their position, and it was then I also realized how unloving I had been to others in doing so. LOL — the 21st C. So, I figure, why should I be?

Why come up with a story when you can swipe it? It could help him out the next time he sees someone levitating next to a bus. The peddling and purveying of fear and paranoia has pushed me away from a lot of segments of evangelicalism and American Christianity. Megachurch near us had one of the top elders warn everyone about the evils of Harry Potter a few years back, from the pulpit. Yeah, we were talking about him earlier in the thread. I used to watch his show every week. It was broadcast on TBN. A more recent example of a scam artist in the Christian ranks is Ergun Caner. He had a serious problem telling the truth regarding his past, alleging ties to Islam, etc.

The trustees were slow to remove him even after he was exposed as a fraud, but eventually they did. I think he now works at some small fundamentalist Baptist College in Texas. There are still those who believe his story. For the record, HUG. I think we all get your background at this point. The key-changes alone made me want to vomit.

Seriously, though, a female, btw Christian author I know of has a couple of interesting points to make on the topic of discernment. One is that suspicion is not the biblically-mentioned gift of discernment. Indeed, we are instructed to test spirits, not just discern them. Fallen angels are pictured in Revelation as stars that fell from heaven. Holly is used by Wiccans to lull people to sleep. Therefore Hollywood is run by sorcerers and demons who want to put you to sleep spiritually. It creates a dilemma about God. Is He in the business of tricking us? THis also contradicts Romans which indicates that nature teaches us about God.

I really need to do some posts about this. I found it on Snopes. I wrote the pastor who apologized. I was told by another pastor that it is a traditional for pastors to exaggerate and make up stories. I asked him whether that was found in the Bible. I was not liked a whole bunch. We wrote extensively on the Caner situation when it happened.

I think there about about 15 posts on that debacle if you put Ergun Caner into the search. Here is one to get you started. I forgot about that song!!!! I wish I had put it into the post. I would have never dreamed in a million years that you would be supporting comp doctrine. What are you thinking watching Jeanie serve her master? This was a big part of my christian upbringing!! Then there was that utter scare monger Constance Cumbey. Oh I actually saw a video where Prince Charles is the anitchrist. There was the video about music Hells Bells. Of course this is just light reading compared to……..

For our knitting enthusiasts out there…I just bought the Unofficial Harry Potter knits. Chris Angel is pretty cool. I remember watching some of his tv specials. I have to say, though,he kind of freaks me out a bit. That is one of the things that drove us right out of evangelicalism: Might the shallow superstitions and easily disproven internet legends be a contributing factor to the generational divide in churches also? So members of the younger generation can end up with the impression that everyone besides themselves believes that way.

It pains me that we have thrown out opportunities to share the good news with these kids because of our insistence on tolerating and even encouraging this irrationality. Our generation has screwed it up with our silly urban legends and our bowing at the altar of American conservative politics as if it were headed by Jesus Himself.

I get the feeling that christians who are immersed in Christian culture of the present are especially afraid of making mistakes. My sneaking suspicion is that this is all a seedy advertising campaign. Some of the powerbrokers in Christian culture have laced their message with untruth on purpose. I do believe that behind it all, in the darker corners of their psyche, is the desire and need to control. I think some many?

Christian powerbrokers truly have believed the sky is falling or about to fall. The sky is falling! And then they discovered….. What an incredible waste of time, emotion, energy, relationship, money to go there. Once I quoted something from Lewis to a friend and he became very somber: Simon the Magician from Acts Ch 8 is an interesting case study.

Too little mentioned in Church Discipline discussion. When Simon asked Peter to pray for him, did this mean he was sincerely reforming from his wickedness? Like the YouTube dedication to Fred Phelps. A little historical background on the song and its time:. I remember similar things myself. Aside from hellfire and brimstone raining down, some fear the sky falling on their own castle male privilege, male ego, career, emotional safety and turn it into a commodity.

All such castle-owners, or wanna-be castle-owners, eagerly buy. And seeing how these things usually go, the younger generation my generation will probably screw it up in a completely different way. That said, did anyone else see echoes of the same thing in the …. Ah, yes, the Y2K Rapture Scare.

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I think some are still on the freebie stands. Or shot off all their ammunition? Oh, and the Survival Refuges with adequate fire ports and cleared fields of fire more than one tank of gas from any major city or Interstate are still a hot item. Turn me on, dead man. Laugh of the morning! Some things never change well, not from through the present, at least. Oh, my parents would have bought a generator if they could have afforded one!

We knew another family who bought one; they sold it at a yard sale several years later, unused. To be fair about all the Y2K stuff, it only ended up not being a problem because a lot of people did a lot of hard work. But the risk WAS real, even if some people took it too far. The fact that not one light blinked at the turn showed that the problem was well under control. So, some of my acquaintances who took classes on how to use a hoe I kid you not , bought up garage full of seeds,purchased goodness knows how many MREs, learned how to make soap, purchased guns, etc. They told me I would be sorry.

So, when nothing happened, I asked them if they thought that maybe I was right after all. They said nothing happened because all of the good Christians who raised a stink saved the world by raising concerns. They refused to listen. But then again they believe the Pope is the antiChrist. I heard so many sales pitches for Y2K that I think I could do the huckster sales pitch really well. In some cases, that might well be true! I like Revolution, Under the Dome loved the cow who split in half , Siberia, Falling Skies and every conspiracy show that is available.

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I have extremely poor taste in TV. I like weird, survivalist shows. It gets it out of my system so i can attempt to be more rational in my day to day life. I want to learn to shoot a bow and arrow like that young woman can in Revolution. I also learned how to make washing machine soap when I watched an episode of the Duggars. I watched that one, the new baby one and the Creation Museum one-had a good laugh. So we could do classes on how to make soap! We could make bank, Numo. Then we could finally start our TWW monastery. I think the character in Revolution is a poor copy of the central character in The Hunger Games trilogy — who is an accomplished bow hunter trying to keep her family fed in what seems like a post-nuclear war US well, remnants of what once was the US.

Gullibility is a symptom of ignorance. My favorite British detective show from recent year: All cartoons, though the 1st two are fantasy martial arts stuff set in alternate-universe version of East Asia and the Pacific Rim. Ever watch The Vicar of Dibley? One of my favorites. Elastigirl — I thought I had the entire Foyle War series sets Am I missing something? Dawn French as a female Vicar in a small village in England inhabited by very colorful characters.

I hope you have a big appetite. Do you want fries with all of them? The original is on Netflix streaming service, right now…. Have you seen Father Ted? Another show I love: It is, oddly enough, a great show on the Disney channel. Kinda in the same vein as Adventure Time, though less edgey in some ways. You might enjoy it. A pastor once made an investment in a large piece of ranch real estate which he hoped to enjoy during his years of retirement.

While he was still an active pastor, he would take one day off each week to go out to his land and work. But what a job! What he had bought, he soon realized, was several acres of weeds, gopher holes, and rundown buildings. It was anything but attractive, but the pastor knew it had potential and he stuck with it.

It was hard work, but after several months the place began to take shape. And every time the pastor put his hand to some task, he would swell with pride. He knew his labor was finally paying off. When the project was completed, the pastor received a neighborly visit from a farmer who lived a few miles down the road. Farmer Brown took a long look at the preacher and cast a longer eye over the revitalized property. Thanks for all the ideas, numo. Until Father Clifford and Assumpta Fitzgerald left the plot.

What about Lark Rise To Candleford — also totally delightful. At least seasons Especially the one with Kelly and EJ in Tanzania. And I thought I was bored by movies because nobody in Hollywood had an original thought. Have not seen all or even many of the shows discussed although I will be looking on Netflix , but I am a little bit in love with Doc Martin. Hoping to see a new season there sometime in the near future. Oh, and the original House of Cards series — really, really good.

Magically I walked past the news stand today. This time it is about fake miracles taking the place of Jesus. Jesus levitates next to busses? It gives both meaning and non-meaning to the tired and worn out Christianese aphorism: BallyK — no, as I never seemed to be able to catch the 1st season, back when it was making the rounds on PBS. However, I might just get back to it. Thanks for the tip! Where are these kids? That being said…I agree that the solution for young people is not to tune out everything the older generation says.

Though I can see how that could be hard when the wisdom hides under a thick layer of political conspiracy theory frosting. Gotta start writing the book o how to survive a meteor hit. I will have the inside scoop-a gospel avoidance of a biblical meteor. I like MMA — I call it my guilty pleasure. Because it is impossible to have a Christian worldview and believe that beating men created in the image of God to a bloody pulp is wholesome.

Internet Monk Saturday Ramblings 7. I have to wonder if the Christianists have to insist that Illusion is Magic — as in a suspension of the laws of nature due to some evil power — because if they treat it in a rational manner it will cause them to question their belief in miracles. And miracle working evangelists who are able to cause you to dance on your maimed limbs and your wallet to magically fly out of your pocket. Jesus was big on verifying miracles. He sent those cured from leprosy to the priests who were taught to recognize the signs and symptoms of the disease.

Christians should demand that all miracles be carefully verified by physicians before making such a claim. You mean, not completely in error — anything he claims as truth is utter partisan BS more often than not! A spellbook is just, just a book! Something like fire or water or air, a part of the world? I looked around at her friends and I saw wondering looks on their faces too. Just recently I got a letter in my Facebook mail who said if God is going to heal me of all my health problems especially I had a cancerous tumor removed recently and still might have cancer cells in my body , and give me money to pay my bills, I must take all of the Harry Potter and anime stuff off of my Facebook page.

Skip to primary content. Skip to secondary content. Proctor and Gamble "worships the devil. Magic Some years ago, a local church had a Christian illusionist provide an evening of entertainment for its members. Let's take a look at the video in question. Here is the explanation on the same You Tube page. Speaking the truth does not make you popular Me, too. Those emails really miff me off. Headless Unicorn Guy wrote: Christians at times are the worse gossips around!

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Some preachers are still on Harry Potter. Because some types of Christians are always lagging behind pop culture. They are still screaming about Harry Potter being demonic or pro Wiccan. I just added this update to the post. I also remember the Proctor and Gamble rumors. Tell me about it. Totally forgot about Marjoe!!! No, they were evil.

Dan Delzell is a nut. Gene Veith has replied to two previous posts Delzell has written: I believe that God does this occasionally, but certainly not on command. Hi HUG, yes, I think you have more accurately rendered the quote! Beware The Wrath of Ostrachan! Per Harry Potter, the best one I ever heard came from an Adventist: When there is a story that sells, everyone wants to get in on the business. Muff Potter — I would have never dreamed in a million years that you would be supporting comp doctrine. Dee, I love your HP story! Schonfield and Stephen A.

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