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Lombra del torturatore: 1 (Fanucci Narrativa) (Italian Edition)

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Then again, if I took up pages with flowery words of why this booked suck, I'd be doing the same thing the author of this piece of shit did. The Torture of the Shadower: Gene Wolfe has it. He's a talented writer that can make a pretty sentence. I was often impressed with his word usage and some of the sentences were really enjoyable to read.

That said, you don't have to construct pretty sentences to impress I tried. That said, you don't have to construct pretty sentences to impress me. That won't last but a moment, gone by the time I've moved to the next sentence. But when you string along a bunch of them, I start getting annoyed. Look, I read a work of fiction for story. Not to clap my hands to my face and get orgasmic because the writer is so very talented and smart. I get that Gene Wolfe is smarter than I am. Frankly, I don't give much of a fuck. I'm reading a book for story.

And while you're doing that, try using the language that your readers read in this case English. Wolfe has this insanely annoying tendency to make up a bunch of words without definition and string them through the narrative, making the readers feel like the dumbfucks because they don't know what they mean. Many of these you can pick up in context, until after the halfway point of the book when context goes out the window. Because you don't know the fuck is going on. And don't much care by this point. I found myself skimming by the last 40 pages or so. Sure, I missed a lot of what was happening by doing this, but to be honest, I wouldn't have gotten much more by reading every flowery word.

I'd have just been more impressed with Wolfe's ability to use fancy words which he either makes up or I'm just too stupid to comprehend , and been angry with him for wasting my time. I get that some people love this stuff. I can see where one might. I'm just not that one. View all 15 comments. Okay, like many an SF book, this plunges us into a nebulous world not wholly rendered--in a grave yard no less. Now that's a good start: The Torturer's Guild, mind.


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From here, the book drags like a fucking stone weight around your brain as our would be torturer becomes obssessed with a captive and eventually leaves to find some other destiny. I got to the end after hundreds of pages and realized not Okay, like many an SF book, this plunges us into a nebulous world not wholly rendered--in a grave yard no less.

I got to the end after hundreds of pages and realized nothing really happened, the plot was dead in the water, and I didn't give a fuck about any of the characters. Hell if I'm going to read the other three books, Gene. Sick world, boring characters.

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I made it about 10 chapters, over an hour in. Definitely not for me. That's unfortunate since the alternate group read is Titus Groan which falls into the same category for me. I finally decided to drop this series. If I need to learn new, difficult words that I'll never use in a sentence, I'll buy a dictionary. It will be more interesting. View all 21 comments. I can't remember the last time I read something so boring, and I took three years of the history of polish literature, which was usually just barely interesting. Este autor es insoportable. La historia es buena, el mundo, los personajes, todo eso esta bien.

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Pero la manera que tiene de contarla es lamentable. Pongo un fragmento para que tengan de ejemplo: Quien carajos habla asi? Quien carajos escribe de esa manera? Esta tratando de usar todas las palabras de la lengua que tenemos en existencia? Trata de demostrar un niv Listo, me canse. Trata de demostrar un nivel de cultura ultra elevado?

Esto esta dirigido a los pseudo intelectualoides que tienen complejo de inferioridad y tratan de aparentar ser mas inteligentes de lo que en realidad son? Por favor, con que necesidad hace esto. Le di todas las oportunidades que pude, pero me colmo la paciencia. Si existe una cosa que no tolero es a una persona soberbia.

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Gene Wolfe lo es. Se lleva el premio Hugo y Nebula a la soberbia. Ya que estamos, denle el Nobel tambien.


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  • A quien le sobra una escalera de un kilometro para bajarlo de su ego a este tipo? View all 4 comments. All of my friends who have rated this have rated it either 5 stars or 1 star, so I was curious which side of the divide I would fall on. I gave it about pages before giving up, but just couldn't get into it. There's lyrical language, and then there's overblown language, and I'd have to say this is the latter.

    Not my cup of tea. View all 13 comments.

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    Keely's review covers it. I will only add, that I quit halfway through the third book because on top of the misogynist narrator and the false depth of the characters, I began to form the impression that the author was making fun of his readers in a mean-spirited way. You know that smart kid who, while fairly intelligent, think's he's much smarter than he is, and so speaks under the mistaken belief that his 'brilliant' and mean-spirited allusions and double entendres go unnoticed by their targets Keely's review covers it.

    You know that smart kid who, while fairly intelligent, think's he's much smarter than he is, and so speaks under the mistaken belief that his 'brilliant' and mean-spirited allusions and double entendres go unnoticed by their targets while he takes pleasure both from cruelty and a sense superiority, safe from the retribution of his less quick peers?

    Yeah, can't say for sure, but I get the creeping sense the author's one of those. And I'm not so sure he's sufficiently smarter to get away with it. As I read on, the sense the the end of the series would be a punchline at my expense grew. On the other hand, I also saw the potential for a brilliant ending. Numerous threads that if woven would produce a stunning tapestry snaked through the books. However, Wolfe continually dropped these. Fascinating suggestions, hints, nascent ideas snowballed in significance and then disappeared.

    I kept waiting for them to resurface, wondering if the author was testing the capacity of my memory, but the fear grew that these were part of the big, mean joke. Perhaps these dangling threads form a statement on the essentially chaotic face of the world behind mask of pattern, history, and causality.

    If so, Wolfe's not casting any new light on this well worn idea. I know a lot of folks that seem to like this and I don't know why. I've met Gene Wolfe. He's a nice enough fellow, but I really didn't care for this book at all. I've only tried to read one other book by Wolfe and couldn't get through it. And I've never done anything else by him. Maybe it's just me. Ahh, well, that was a book I suppose. I think if faced with jail time or reading this book ever again, I'd pick the jail time.

    The single star is for the cover and the 1 legged dog. I kind of feel bad for giving just 1 star to this book, because it does have some neat ideas, and the world which is not post-apocalyptic fantasy a la M. John Harrison or Mark Lawrence, but rather post-scientific fantasy I guess, with the elite still having futuristic high tech, while most of the population lives in medieval gutter is interesting enough, and you can see that the author had put in some extra effort with his thesaurus, but honestly it was all in vain.

    The Shadow of the Torturer i I kind of feel bad for giving just 1 star to this book, because it does have some neat ideas, and the world which is not post-apocalyptic fantasy a la M. The Shadow of the Torturer is a complete mess of confusing events, irrelevant digressions, unexplained backstories, implausible coincidences and terrible pacing, with gonzo porn level of interaction between the main character and every woman he runs into. As a stand alone work, it's complete rubbish. I am quite aware that this book is only part one in a series of four novels, and that some open questions might be answered later, but that is no excuse for layers upon layers of literary mumbo jumbo and sheer stupidity that have filled up these pages.

    If you cannot tell a decent, and at least partially comprehensible story, in pages, then I have no reason to believe that you can do it in or however pages the whole four bloody novels might take, and I have absolutely no intention to continue reading them. So here is my quick hello and even quicker goodbye to Severian the torturer's apprentice, whose punishment for breaking the main rule of his guild i.

    Now the first part of the book was all taking place within a huge enclosed citadel where Severian completed his apprenticeship, and as a result we were told very little about the outside world. So when our hero finally goes outside, instead of providing some additional world history, or explaining what to hell is going on in this weird society, the author decides to spend around pages on a pointless side adventure, when some random brother and sister make up the most convoluted plan ever to steal Severian's precious sword. They fail miserably, of course, and in the process, Severian executes the scheming brother, makes some money, hooks up with a hot young blonde, and gets in possession of a unique and presumably super powerful religious artifact.

    Not too bad for a guy whose contribution to the story was to aimlessly wander around, clumsily fall into lakes like he was a cartoon character, and stare into women's breasts. The book ends abruptly with all characters stuck in a huge tunnel on the way out of the city, I guess with some sort of cliffhanger, but I was honestly just happy that the stupid crap was over, and did not really care how it ended up at all. Very disappointed by this book as I'd heard such great things about it. It's considered a classic of the genre. I will admit, I didn't start it under the most auspicious circumstances - I had just finished Joe Abercrombie's The Blade Itself which I loved and I was sitting in a government office keeping one eye on the screen to ensure that I didn't miss my number coming up.

    So it was very hard to focus on the book, and I kept having to re-read sentences. Abercrombie's tone is so light and engag Very disappointed by this book as I'd heard such great things about it. Abercrombie's tone is so light and engaging compared to Wolfe's flat, plodding monotone, that the juxtaposition presented Wolfe's book in an even more unfavourable light.

    Unfortunately, when I found myself in an environment more conducive to reading, I still didn't like the book. It was very slow and in parts, quite boring. Although Wolfe's tone is similar to that he employed in The Knight , it worked for me there where it didn't here. Because of that voice, the text is robbed of emotion - when Severian falls in love with any of the women he runs across, although he tells of his attraction, it's in a very matter-of-fact, robotic tone that robs the reader of feeling any of the character's emotions.

    In the end, it was impossible to care for the character or his adventures. He just seemed to drift from one event to another, rarely taking any kind of leadership role in his own life. I could see glimmers of things that I would find interesting - the descriptions of the Citadel and the Wall reminded me of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast in Titus Groan where the castle becomes almost its own character, and the description of the various garden rooms were interesting, although they were somewhat reminiscent of Ray Bradbury's short story "The Veldt.

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