Language of the Erotic
Emotional content, the surreal and strange, and sexual imagery. Erotic novels have all three and I can say after importing a short essay that it is very effective.
The only thing I learned from adults not being open about sexuality was that sexuality was something to be hidden. I distinctly remember my parents changing the channel when a sex scene came on the tv. I just learned that it was something to be ashamed of and not talked about. I still agree that if you are trying to make Lingq child friendly that you shouldn't put up sexual content. But only because it will provoke adults irrational prejudices and thus the kids may not be allowed to used the site, the same way I wasn't allowed watch the TV.
It is sad when people try and "make it about the kids" when in reality it is about the shame most us felt around the topic.
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What could you possibly learn useful from such material, apart from talking dirty to the opposite sex. On of my pet peeves about many English people is that the first things they learn in the language are swear words, dirty words and then think they sound cool when they say them out loud. I'm sure erotic stories etc are easy to find on the internet for studying yourself, but I honestly don't think the opposite-sex would actually find it amusing or think you are clever for knowing it.
Your post proves one of my points, "swear" words tend to contain strong emotional connections so people learn them very fast. The trick is to have many of these emotionally charged words in the text so you remember the sentences easier. I see your point, and yes swearing and erotic words do actually stick very easily, and I think the absolute best way to learn vocubarly is to read stuff that interests you If that happens to be erotic material, then I'd say go for it.
But making it available on LingQ would cause more problems than it's worth. You can find plenty of this stuff on Youtube or via a quick google search. I think you have misunderstood what I mean about swearing. To me it all depends on the context. Swearing because you are angry or to really emphasize something, is fine IMO I think we all do it , it adds a richness to speech when used probably. However, how would you feel if you heard drunk foreigners shouting out swear words and erotic words to Italian women.
They obviously think it's funny, but in reality it isn't and just makes them look like idiots. I've experienced this so many times, mainly with British people, who think it's clever to use such words. I agree, that is just brutish and aggressive behavior. Screaming at someone on the street is threatening regardless of what is being said. It is the behavior more so than the words being said. Lol this idea that many British or English people in particular are swearing yobs running around drunk all the time is a bit unfair, it is a tiny percentage that are like that.
I have heard just as many people from other countries in London shouting, screaming and swearing their heads off Unfortunately it sounds more like some individuals here have had the experience of 'stag parties' which sadly give off a bad image of the English.
I don't think it is 'clever' to use such words, but I do accept that it is an integral part of any language and should be considered such. We've got the Australian Bogan. In Sydney, there is the subset of the Bogan called the 'Westie' who originally lived in the west of the city, but are now spread throughout it. It's all particularly hilarious. Spare us the moralizing. Every society has its standards of what it considers decent, pleasant, agreeable, etc.. In the case of LingQ this excludes eroticism. We have allowed some colourful language in some Spanish dialogues, appropriately market, since this accurately reflects how people speak in Spain.
We can certainly have a discussion on censorship in general and whether it is irrational to place limits on the amount of sexually implicit material to allow in various situations, like, children's television or children's books, prime time television, or late night TV. Start a thread on it. But I don't think it is a matter of rationality but rather of tastes and standards which have more to do with emotions than reason. I judge that the comfort level of most users of LingQ is best served by not having eroticism on the site.
I'm personally not bothered by the restrictions on such material being in the libraries here. If someone wants to use it - the import feature is the solution. The thing which bothers me is how people look down at others based on the words they use which they see to be crass and rude, seeing them as lowly human beings. That attitude, to me, is far more horrible than any sexuality and swearing.
Generally I'm against censorship, but this is Steve's website so he has every right to stop people adding hardcore sexual content - the same way he has every right to ask visitors staying at his house not to swear or go nude, etc. I think there is perhaps a certain double standard in having slightly different rules for Spanish content, but hey It is in the nature of being human to have opinions and therefore to judge.
We even judge people by how they dress.
- Erotic Essays - Language Forum @ LingQ.
- Eroticism - Wikipedia;
- Proyecto Titanes. Cuando lo imposible sucede. (Spanish Edition)!
Here on this forum, our words are our only clothes. So be careful of what you wear to the forum. So be careful of what you wear to the forum". I guess if you extend THAT analogy then people could go nude here, in the sense that they could refrain from posting!? I don't judge based on look or clothes; that's something which is odd to me.
I'm talking about the type of judging where one person considers the other to be inhuman almost, based on things which are truly, not so horrible. Some would make you believe that swearing is as heinous a crime as murder.
Bawdy Language: Book Excerpts
Of course, of course I fully support your right to do what ever you wish with your property, I am only renting it and like a tenant I can only make suggestions. But only because it will provoke adults irrational prejudices and thus the kids may not be allowed to used the site". Like I said, my parents would switch off the tv and for me this was irrational behavior and it did more harm then good.
If it was rational they could have at least explained it using reason but they couldn't. Your above argument is simply an appeal to tradition. You are calling the views of many adults here, including mine, "irrational prejudices", as if you represent some new "rational truth".
Because eroticism is wholly dependent on the viewer's culture and personal tastes pertaining to what, exactly, defines the erotic, [7] [8] critics have often [ how often? Whereas traditionally eroticism has been dealt with in relation to culture and its pornographic outcomes, current evolutionary psychology shows how eroticism has shaped the evolution of human nature.
Erotica - Wikipedia
For a psychoanalytical definition, as early as Freud [12] psychotherapists have turned to the ancient Greek philosophy's "overturning of mythology" [ citation needed ] as a definition to understanding of the heightened aesthetic. Modern French conceptions of eroticism can be traced to The Enlightenment , [15] when "in the eighteenth century, dictionaries defined the erotic as that which concerned love It presupposes man in conflict with himself".
Queer theory and LGBT studies consider the concept from a non-heterosexual perspective, viewing psychoanalytical and modernist views of eroticism as both archaic [20] and heterosexist , [21] written primarily by and for a "handful of elite, heterosexual, bourgeois men" [22] who "mistook their own repressed sexual proclivities" [23] as the norm. Rubin [26] and Marilyn Frye [27] all write extensively about eroticism from a heterosexual, lesbian and separatist point of view, respectively, seeing Eroticism as both a political force [28] and cultural critique [29] for marginalized groups, or as Mario Vargas Llosa summarized: Audre Lorde , a Caribbean-American writer and out-spoken feminist talks of the erotic being a type of power being specific to females.
Rather than enjoying and sharing with one another, it is objectifying, which she says translates into abuse as we attempt to hide and suppress our experiences. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This article is about Eroticism. For the band, see E-Rotic.
Sex and Mysticism
For the Madonna song, see Erotica song. Retrieved 7 August Aurore, , pp. A Historical and Quantitative Survey 2nd ed. Vantage Press, repr. An Annotated Bibliography, New York: